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mikewillis
21-Oct-2011, 10:56
Since I've never tried using a scanner with Linux before I've raided a
store cupboard and acquired a HP scanner to play with. As a result I've
learnt that some HP printers/scanners, including it would seem the one
I've got hold of, require a binary plugin that works along with hplip.
The hp-setup and hp-plugin commands are supposed to be able to download
and install this binary plugin. The problem is that these commands
download the plugin from linuxprinting.org which has been down for
weeks.

It's possible to download the plugin for the latest version of hplip
from the hplip website, but they don't have previous versions available.
I can't find anywhere to download the plugin that's needed for the
version of hplip which is included in SLED 11 SP1 (3.9.8). Anyone know
where to get it? (Updating hplip isn't a satisfactory solution.)

This doesn't just affect me of course, it affects anyone using SLED who
needs to get that HP plugin. hp-setup and hp-plugin on SLED are
effectively broken due to linuxprinting.org being down.


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malcolmlewis
21-Oct-2011, 13:25
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:56:01 GMT
mikewillis <mikewillis@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:

>
> Since I've never tried using a scanner with Linux before I've raided a
> store cupboard and acquired a HP scanner to play with. As a result
> I've learnt that some HP printers/scanners, including it would seem
> the one I've got hold of, require a binary plugin that works along
> with hplip. The hp-setup and hp-plugin commands are supposed to be
> able to download and install this binary plugin. The problem is that
> these commands download the plugin from linuxprinting.org which has
> been down for weeks.
>
> It's possible to download the plugin for the latest version of hplip
> from the hplip website, but they don't have previous versions
> available. I can't find anywhere to download the plugin that's needed
> for the version of hplip which is included in SLED 11 SP1 (3.9.8).
> Anyone know where to get it? (Updating hplip isn't a satisfactory
> solution.)
>
> This doesn't just affect me of course, it affects anyone using SLED
> who needs to get that HP plugin. hp-setup and hp-plugin on SLED are
> effectively broken due to linuxprinting.org being down.
>
>
Hopefully won't be much longer before everything is back up.

Not sure what the md5sum's etc are for the files...
http://soerya.surabaya.go.id/driver/Printer/driver_printer_hp/hp-printer-plugin/

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mikewillis
21-Oct-2011, 15:16
Hnmmmm.
.id is Indonesia
.go.id is apparently Government and Governmental System.

How did you find that?

What makes this situation really absurd is that hp-setup and hp-plugin
download a configuration file which tells them where to get the plugin
from. A configuration file which has been left pointing at a website
that's been down for weeks... Anyway, that configuration file is at
http://hplip.sourceforge.net/plugin.conf and is contains checksums for
the plugins. The shasum for
http://soerya.surabaya.go.id/driver/Printer/driver_printer_hp/hp-printer-plugin/hplip-3.9.8-plugin.run
matches what's in the configuration file. Which is nice.

I might submit an enhancement request against SLED for a package that
contains the plugin. It would be much better that having to run
hp-plugin and having it spew files over the filesystem and do whatever
else it does.


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malcolmlewis
21-Oct-2011, 15:42
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:16:02 GMT
mikewillis <mikewillis@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:

>
> Hnmmmm.
> id is Indonesia
> go.id is apparently Government and Governmental System.
>
> How did you find that?
>
> What makes this situation really absurd is that hp-setup and hp-plugin
> download a configuration file which tells them where to get the plugin
> from. A configuration file which has been left pointing at a website
> that's been down for weeks... Anyway, that configuration file is at
> http://hplip.sourceforge.net/plugin.conf and is contains checksums for
> the plugins. The shasum for
> http://soerya.surabaya.go.id/driver/Printer/driver_printer_hp/hp-printer-plugin/hplip-3.9.8-plugin.run
> matches what's in the configuration file. Which is nice.
>
> I might submit an enhancement request against SLED for a package that
> contains the plugin. It would be much better that having to run
> hp-plugin and having it spew files over the filesystem and do whatever
> else it does.
>
>
Hi
Might be a license issue with the run files.

I just googled on the run file name until I found a site hosting it....

Well if kernel.org didn't have it's issues (is there a timeline for it
to be back up?), then it would be available as that's where those files
live.

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mikewillis
21-Oct-2011, 16:56
malcolmlewis;2147839 Wrote:
>
> Might be a license issue with the run files.
>

Maybe, but there's license issues with distributing Flash, Java and
Adobe Reader and they're all in SLED.

I figured out which files were being modified/created by the installer
and put together an rpm myself in the mean time. The installer only
modifies one existing file, /var/lib/hp/hplip.state, it's simple enough
to script the modification in %post and %postun

With my rpm installed on the machine the scanner's connected to, the
scanner now works. Which is nice. The only part of the process were root
(which users of machines I manage don't have) was required to get the
scanner working was getting the plugin installed. With the plugin in an
rpm it's simple to put it on any machine for people who need it, or just
push it out to all the machines.

malcolmlewis;2147839 Wrote:
>
> I just googled on the run file name until I found a site hosting
> it....
>
You have the superior Google skills, or patience, or quite possible,
both :)


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malcolmlewis
21-Oct-2011, 17:07
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:56:01 GMT
mikewillis <mikewillis@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:

>
> malcolmlewis;2147839 Wrote:
> >
> > Might be a license issue with the run files.
> >
>
> Maybe, but there's license issues with distributing Flash, Java and
> Adobe Reader and they're all in SLED.

AFAIK, there is a agreement that SLE can ship, for openSUSE it's
in the non-oss repositories.

>
> I figured out which files were being modified/created by the installer
> and put together an rpm myself in the mean time. The installer only
> modifies one existing file, /var/lib/hp/hplip.state, it's simple
> enough to script the modification in %post and %postun
>
> With my rpm installed on the machine the scanner's connected to, the
> scanner now works. Which is nice. The only part of the process were
> root (which users of machines I manage don't have) was required to
> get the scanner working was getting the plugin installed. With the
> plugin in an rpm it's simple to put it on any machine for people who
> need it, or just push it out to all the machines.

I would put an enhancement request in via bugzilla, post back the
number and will ask my Novell friends ;)

>
> malcolmlewis;2147839 Wrote:
> >
> > I just googled on the run file name until I found a site hosting
> > it....
> >
> You have the superior Google skills, or patience, or quite possible,
> both :)
>
>

I just used "hplip-3.9.8-plugin.run" then on the second page....?


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mikewillis
21-Oct-2011, 22:06
malcolmlewis;2147879 Wrote:
>
> I would put an enhancement request in via bugzilla, post back the
> number and will ask my Novell friends ;)
>
Submitted via the Novell Enhancement Portal, 57851.

malcolmlewis;2147879 Wrote:
>
> I just used "hplip-3.9.8-plugin.run" then on the second page....?
>
Google search results have more than one page? ;)


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mikewillis
26-Oct-2011, 08:46
Now you've found me a copy of the 3.9.8 plugin and I've worked out how
to package it, an update for hplip 3.10.11 has been released!
'NOVELL: Downloads - hplip 5307'
(http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=xYyOogDU4ao~)

linuxprinting.org is still down but the 3.10.11 plugin can (at time of
writing) be downloaded from 'HP Linux Imaging and Printing'
(http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/plugin_download.html)


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