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ashmoore
03-Aug-2012, 19:06
There is much gnashing of teeth here in the US about the sub-standard
NBC olympic coverage, but surely they can't be the only ones can they?


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kgroneman
03-Aug-2012, 20:03
Hey ashmoore,

>There is much gnashing of teeth here in the US about the sub-standard
>NBC olympic coverage, but surely they can't be the only ones can they?

Sub standard? I'm thinking it's pretty good. All day long coverage
(though I can only watch evenings). Though there is some good human
interest stuff still, I find they actually have more air time of actual
events than in previous years. I do wish they would show more of the
medal ceremonies in prime time, but I guess that's a trade off for
event time. It's a heck of a lot better than buying an expensive
ticket and sitting in the nose bleed section and having to watch with
binoculars. What do you find sub-standard?

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GofBorg
03-Aug-2012, 20:55
The complaints I have seen center around the fact that it is following
American teams too closely and not delving into other international stories.

ashmoore
03-Aug-2012, 21:46
inane, misinformed chatter from apparent simpleton hosts who seem to
revel in their lack of knowledge.
Only internet streaming to watch live, unless you watch the time
delayed broadcast - but they tell you the results beforehand on the
website and their own news.
It would be good to see others competing when it is great competition,
not just when there is a US participant

To be honest I gave up on them and watch the BBC streams. They have
commentators that know their stuff and shut up during the important
bits.


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Stevo
03-Aug-2012, 22:18
ashmoore sounds like they 'said':

> To be honest I gave up on them and watch the BBC streams. They have
> commentators that know their stuff and shut up during the important
> bits.

So my response to ashmoore's comment is...

To me that's almost as important as the event itself.

Funny story, I remember watching part of some college football game
last fall. The HD channel somehow lost the announcer audio. You could
hear everything else, just not the announcers. The RD channel had
everything, just the HD channel was 'lacking'. Was the best 10 minutes
or so watching a football game on tv I can remember.

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kgroneman
03-Aug-2012, 22:32
Hey GofBorg,

>The complaints I have seen center around the fact that it is
>following American teams too closely and not delving into other
>international stories.

Eh? There's a lot of international competition there that don't even
involve Americans: www.nbcolympics.com/OlympicsSchedule

I'm an American. I want to see my American teams in prime time and
that's only a few short hours per day. If they didn't you'd see a lot
of complaining on the other side.

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kgroneman
03-Aug-2012, 22:38
Hey ashmoore,

>inane, misinformed chatter from apparent simpleton hosts who seem to
>revel in their lack of knowledge.

That's what's wrong with the world these days. When something doesn't
go one's way or is presented in a manner not to one's desires, instead
of saying c'est la vie, or at least respecting other methods and points
of view, the presenter is "inane" and a "simpleton". Sorry..when you
discuss opinions in that angry, intollerant tone, it's not worth
discussing with ya. Enjoy the Olympics.

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Jim Henderson
03-Aug-2012, 23:39
On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:38:01 +0000, kgroneman wrote:

> That's what's wrong with the world these days.

I think it's more the assumption that the majority watching are incapable
of understanding or looking up what they're interested in.

Many TV presentations aim for explaining things in terms simple enough
that they tend to insult the intelligence of the average viewer.

It's not like Google doesn't exist - and people who don't understand
can't look up what they don't understand if they're interested enough.

For us, the reports of the opening ceremonies were a real disappointment
(since we don't have cable, we didn't watch the NBC presentation) -
talking over the music, explaining every little cultural reference.
Because a few people might've missed who Voldemort is, or may not
recognise Mary Poppins.

People don't like being told (implicitly or explicitly) that they're
stupid. But dumbing down the presentation to the lowest common
denominator insults a larger number of people than explaining things that
are (or should be) common knowledge are to the few who don't understand
what's going on.

Jim
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Massimo Rosen
04-Aug-2012, 09:44
On 03.08.2012 20:06, ashmoore wrote:
>
> There is much gnashing of teeth here in the US about the sub-standard
> NBC olympic coverage, but surely they can't be the only ones can they?

Pretty much the same problem in germany.

Hardly any competition is broadcasted live, or in full. There's too much
stuff going in parallel, and they're switching back and forth until it's
totally impossible to enjoy the tension of any particular competition.
Want to see a *complete* game of basketball, football, volleyball,
hockey? No bloody way. I wouldn't be too surprised if they swith away to
some other event in the middle of the 100m, :(

In previous years, they had multiple TV channels broadcasting different
events, absolutely *live*, and without interruption, which was brilliant.

This year they decided in their eternal wisdom that internet streams
would do the same job. Well, yeah, if you're happy with the broadcast
quality of the 1972 olympics on a 50" flatscreen, go for it.

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Shaun Pond
04-Aug-2012, 17:13
Ashmoore,

we have 24 channels of BBC coverage... :)

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craig wilson
05-Aug-2012, 23:59
We generally have 4 Channels doing Live Coverage all throughout the day
on my Cable System's relatively standard package tier.

No, they dont cover the hottest events which are delayed, but I like it all.

I don't have any complaints.

On 8/4/2012 12:13 PM, Shaun Pond wrote:
> Ashmoore,
>
> we have 24 channels of BBC coverage... :)
>


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Niels Poulsen
06-Aug-2012, 09:12
Shaun Pond wrote:

> Ashmoore,
>
> we have 24 channels of BBC coverage... :)

Wow... that's a lot of channels ;)

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Simon Flood
06-Aug-2012, 12:04
On 06/08/2012 09:12, Niels Poulsen wrote:

> Wow... that's a lot of channels ;)

They change daily - each one is dedicated to a particular event (i.e.
men's javelin) so if you're only interested in that event you can follow
it all.

Simon

Niels Poulsen
06-Aug-2012, 13:16
Simon Flood wrote:

> On 06/08/2012 09:12, Niels Poulsen wrote:
>
> > Wow... that's a lot of channels ;)
>
> They change daily - each one is dedicated to a particular event (i.e.
> men's javelin) so if you're only interested in that event you can
> follow it all.
>
> Simon

Okay, well I only have national channels from the scandinavian
contries... and they mostly show the same ;)

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ashmoore
06-Aug-2012, 13:56
that was the root of my question - and why I stream BBC coverage. There
is coverage :)
I think locally we have two, maybe three channels to watch.

My commentator comments where really relating to Matt Lauer and
Meredith Viera during the opening ceremony. They seemed to be
challenging each other to know less about whatever they were discussing.
Reveling in their lack of knowledge and joking about it.
Great example during the connected world/internet segment, when Tim
Berners-Lee appeared, they said "If you haven't heard of him, we haven't
either," - really?
When I watched the BBC version it was like watching a completely
different event. The presenters knew all sorts of interesting stuff, but
kept quiet unless something really needed saying.
They also showed the incredibly moving 7/7 segment, which NBC replaced
with a Michael Phelps interview - to know why that is insensitive go
'here' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings)


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kgroneman
06-Aug-2012, 19:51
Hey Jim Henderson,

>> That's what's wrong with the world these days.
>
>I think it's more the assumption that the majority watching are
>incapable of understanding or looking up what they're interested in.

That's what's wrong with the world?!? Geez. That should be a lot
easier than nasty name calling and intolerance of differing
opinions/beliefs to fix. Who woulda thunk? I stand corrected! ;-)

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Jim Henderson
06-Aug-2012, 20:05
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:51:10 +0000, kgroneman wrote:

> Hey Jim Henderson,
>
>>> That's what's wrong with the world these days.
>>
>>I think it's more the assumption that the majority watching are
>>incapable of understanding or looking up what they're interested in.
>
> That's what's wrong with the world?!? Geez. That should be a lot
> easier than nasty name calling and intolerance of differing
> opinions/beliefs to fix. Who woulda thunk? I stand corrected! ;-)

;)

I think a lot of people are more used to customization of content to meet
their needs.

Jim

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