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W_ Prindl
07-Sep-2012, 23:17
As I am now using a mac for to see where my Mac users (at home) have
their problems I am questioning myself what people, with a good
knowledge of IT like on those machines?

I personally find nothing, which these things can do better than
Windows or Linux. Even the graphics interface is nothing special. And
if it comes to any customization I am forced to the limited
possibilities this OS offers. And much things like e.g. setting
persistent routes are only doable in clumsy workarounds.

So I am really questioning, what advantages those machines have -
except of marketing driven prestige??
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W. Prindl

JimT
07-Sep-2012, 23:43
I have limited experience with OSX but have had

nightmares working with it.

One of the most simple tasks I have tried (and failed)

to do is assign a secondary ip address.

Please correct me if I am wrong but I don't think it is

possible. And connecting to a domain is problematic to

say the least.

Other than that..... well it's not fun...

JT

"W_ Prindl" <W_Prindl@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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> As I am now using a mac for to see where my Mac users (at home) have
> their problems I am questioning myself what people, with a good
> knowledge of IT like on those machines?
>
> I personally find nothing, which these things can do better than
> Windows or Linux. Even the graphics interface is nothing special. And
> if it comes to any customization I am forced to the limited
> possibilities this OS offers. And much things like e.g. setting
> persistent routes are only doable in clumsy workarounds.
>
> So I am really questioning, what advantages those machines have -
> except of marketing driven prestige??
> --
> W. Prindl

KBOYLE
07-Sep-2012, 23:52
W_ Prindl wrote:

> what advantages those machines have -

They *look* nice! ;-)

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Rickb
08-Sep-2012, 00:07
JimT wrote:

> I have limited experience with OSX but have had
>
> nightmares working with it.
>
> One of the most simple tasks I have tried (and failed)
>
> to do is assign a secondary ip address.
>
> Please correct me if I am wrong but I don't think it is
>
> possible. And connecting to a domain is problematic to
>
> say the least.
>
> Other than that..... well it's not fun...
>
> JT
>
> "W_ Prindl" <W_Prindl@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0i2tt0qrql2i000@forums.novell.com...
>> As I am now using a mac for to see where my Mac users (at home) have
>> their problems I am questioning myself what people, with a good
>> knowledge of IT like on those machines?
>>
>> I personally find nothing, which these things can do better than
>> Windows or Linux. Even the graphics interface is nothing special. And
>> if it comes to any customization I am forced to the limited
>> possibilities this OS offers. And much things like e.g. setting
>> persistent routes are only doable in clumsy workarounds.
>>
>> So I am really questioning, what advantages those machines have -
>> except of marketing driven prestige??
>> --
>> W. Prindl


I add secondary ip addresses all the time. It is actually quite easy. All
that have to do is go to sys prefs, network, highlight the nic and click on
the gear in the lower left and click duplicate Service give a name you want.
Than configre the setting you want. I do all the time on networks.

Lance Haig
09-Sep-2012, 12:29
On 07/09/2012 23:17, W_ Prindl wrote:
> As I am now using a mac for to see where my Mac users (at home) have
> their problems I am questioning myself what people, with a good
> knowledge of IT like on those machines?
>
> I personally find nothing, which these things can do better than
> Windows or Linux. Even the graphics interface is nothing special. And
> if it comes to any customization I am forced to the limited
> possibilities this OS offers. And much things like e.g. setting
> persistent routes are only doable in clumsy workarounds.
>
> So I am really questioning, what advantages those machines have -
> except of marketing driven prestige??
>

I find them good for web development so still have my Linux laptop with
tools on it and a KVM windows VM

My only gripe with a mac is that you don't get a home and end key

makes working in terminal a bit testy

Lance

Scott A. Campbell
10-Sep-2012, 00:03
I bought one, forced myself to use for for a couple of days then gave
up. It's been sitting under boxes in my office for the several months
now.
I couldn't see any compelling reason to continue to use it.

I was going to give it away to a friend when I realised that I can
install Win7 on it :-)

Bob Crandell
10-Sep-2012, 15:51
On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 23:03:30 +0000, Scott A. Campbell wrote:

> I bought one, forced myself to use for for a couple of days then gave
> up. It's been sitting under boxes in my office for the several months
> now.
> I couldn't see any compelling reason to continue to use it.
>
> I was going to give it away to a friend when I realised that I can
> install Win7 on it :-)

Install OS12.2 (openSUSE 12.2)

W_ Prindl
10-Sep-2012, 16:09
Yes - but beware of the keyboard - this is one of the most annoying
tools, if you switch between Apple and the rest of the world.

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W. Prindl


Scott A. Campbell wrote:

>I bought one, forced myself to use for for a couple of days then gave
>up. It's been sitting under boxes in my office for the several months
>now.
>I couldn't see any compelling reason to continue to use it.
>
>I was going to give it away to a friend when I realised that I can
>install Win7 on it :-)

GofBorg
10-Sep-2012, 16:28
Mac licensing is better than Windows. I enjoy video editing with
the provided Mac tools. I like the file manager. The hardware is
a beautiful piece of work. Other than that it's far more expensive
in all aspects. I think a well sorted SuSE is far more flexible
and enjoyable but does fall short in some areas. As has been said,
SuSE on Mac might be the ultimate combination.

Dave Taylor
17-Sep-2012, 13:09
GofBorg <GofBorg@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote in news:yGn3s.6103
$If2.3516@kovat.provo.novell.com:

> I like the file manager. The hardware is
> a beautiful piece of work

Agreed. If I can get into localhost:631 and make needed changes and watch a
spinning rainbow that goes away in a reasonable amount of time, I am happy.
They sure make them tough "relative to cheap plastic notebook" and look
good.
I love the story of the teacher who had a pink one, booted all the time
into windows xp, and bought it because it was pink. Their IT was trying to
phone fix the "macbook" but it was just a pink xp laptop and the user had
forgotten how to boot into MacOS.

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Ciao, Dave