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Stevo
28-Nov-2012, 18:39
We are running VDI VMs as well as computers in our domain. We have
GPOs set up, and the computers and VMs are in different OUs underneath
the OUs where the users are to have different GPO options for virtual
vs physical boxes.

we'd like different shutdown options (logoff for VMs, shutdown for
PCs), but we're having a time figuring out how to accomplish this (as
it's a user option, not computer) w/o restructuring our tree & moving
users, etc around or having VMs and PCs with the same shutdown options.

Anyone else doing something similar & willing to share how they
accomplished this?

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Joseph Marton
28-Nov-2012, 19:54
Stevo wrote:

> We are running VDI VMs as well as computers in our domain. We have
> GPOs set up, and the computers and VMs are in different OUs underneath
> the OUs where the users are to have different GPO options for virtual
> vs physical boxes.
>
> we'd like different shutdown options (logoff for VMs, shutdown for
> PCs), but we're having a time figuring out how to accomplish this (as
> it's a user option, not computer) w/o restructuring our tree & moving
> users, etc around or having VMs and PCs with the same shutdown
> options.
>
> Anyone else doing something similar & willing to share how they
> accomplished this?

Hmm... I wonder if ZENworks could help. :-)

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Stevo
28-Nov-2012, 21:15
Joseph Marton sounds like they 'said':

> Hmm... I wonder if ZENworks could help. :-)

So my response to Joseph's comment is...

I'm sure it would, but we don't have it, and we're probably moving away
from edir to ad...................sigh

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craig wilson
28-Nov-2012, 22:34
Yes, ZCM would do it (Even w/o eDir)
Simply set a System Requirement in the GPO.


On 11/28/2012 3:15 PM, Stevo wrote:
> Joseph Marton sounds like they 'said':
>
>> Hmm... I wonder if ZENworks could help. :-)
>
> So my response to Joseph's comment is...
>
> I'm sure it would, but we don't have it, and we're probably moving away
> from edir to ad...................sigh
>


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Joseph Marton
28-Nov-2012, 22:37
Stevo wrote:

> I'm sure it would, but we don't have it, and we're probably moving
> away from edir to ad...................sigh

Sad to hear you're moving from eDir to AD, but still, that doesn't have
anything to do with ZENworks. It will still work just fine. :-)

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Stevo
28-Nov-2012, 23:03
Joseph Marton sounds like they 'said':

> Sad to hear you're moving from eDir to AD, but still, that doesn't
> have anything to do with ZENworks. It will still work just fine. :-)

So my response to Joseph's comment is...

Yeah, I'm quite bummed about it. Problem is, buying something like Zen
would cause add'l licensing/maintenance, which is one of the bigger
reasons we're ditching edir, since we already have to pay maint on ms
cals.

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Joseph Marton
28-Nov-2012, 23:10
Stevo wrote:

> Yeah, I'm quite bummed about it. Problem is, buying something like
> Zen would cause add'l licensing/maintenance, which is one of the
> bigger reasons we're ditching edir, since we already have to pay
> maint on ms cals.

Do you guys have SCCM?

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Stevo
28-Nov-2012, 23:35
Joseph Marton sounds like they 'said':

> Do you guys have SCCM?

So my response to Joseph's comment is...

I'm guessing no since I don't really know what sccm is. Google gives a
pile of answers.

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Stevo
28-Nov-2012, 23:35
craig wilson sounds like they 'said':

> Yes, ZCM would do it (Even w/o eDir)
> Simply set a System Requirement in the GPO.

So my response to craig's comment is...

See my reply to Joe.......

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craig wilson
29-Nov-2012, 00:59
The Idea with Mgmt Software is that it has a Negative Cost, even if you
pay for it.

ZCM does not require any additional cals or any cost outside of the
software itself.

The example I always give from eons ago is that when I ran a ZEN shop,
Mgmt came in and told me they just hired 20 contractors to work on a 3
month project to Deploy and configure software on about 10,000 device
for a new project. They asked me if I would goto a meeting the next day
about the project.

Let's just say I completed the 3 month project the 20 contractors were
supposed to do prior to the Kick Off meeting.

Mgmt never asked about ZEN Costs again :>


On 11/28/2012 5:35 PM, Stevo wrote:
> Joseph Marton sounds like they 'said':
>
>> Do you guys have SCCM?
>
> So my response to Joseph's comment is...
>
> I'm guessing no since I don't really know what sccm is. Google gives a
> pile of answers.
>


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Stevo
29-Nov-2012, 15:50
craig wilson sounds like they 'said':

> The Idea with Mgmt Software is that it has a Negative Cost, even if
> you pay for it.
>
> ZCM does not require any additional cals or any cost outside of the
> software itself.

So my response to craig's comment is...

No maint on it or anything?

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craig wilson
29-Nov-2012, 21:40
Far less than you would pay in Labor costs to maintain your network w/o
such a tool.

It is very important to have a powerful tool than has wide ranging
functionality.

I worked for a company that was moving to Pure AD with a new CIO.
The New CIO hired an SCCM Consultant that he personally knew to help
convert us.

He saw what ZENworks at that time could do and said it would be
impossible to manage our network with SCCM because what we were doing so
far exceeded he had ever seen a company do before.
(Yeah, he only did SCCM.)

Due to our Size, MS even offered SCCM for Free.
But at Free we could not afford it's cost vs ZCM.

And that was coming from the CIO and SCCM consultant..............


On 11/29/2012 9:50 AM, Stevo wrote:
> craig wilson sounds like they 'said':
>
>> The Idea with Mgmt Software is that it has a Negative Cost, even if
>> you pay for it.
>>
>> ZCM does not require any additional cals or any cost outside of the
>> software itself.
>
> So my response to craig's comment is...
>
> No maint on it or anything?
>


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craig wilson
29-Nov-2012, 21:41
Note: That was ZDM then, not ZCM. I had moved on by that time.
I'm just so used to typing ZCM vs ZDM now days.

On 11/29/2012 3:40 PM, craig wilson wrote:
> Far less than you would pay in Labor costs to maintain your network w/o
> such a tool.
>
> It is very important to have a powerful tool than has wide ranging
> functionality.
>
> I worked for a company that was moving to Pure AD with a new CIO.
> The New CIO hired an SCCM Consultant that he personally knew to help
> convert us.
>
> He saw what ZENworks at that time could do and said it would be
> impossible to manage our network with SCCM because what we were doing so
> far exceeded he had ever seen a company do before.
> (Yeah, he only did SCCM.)
>
> Due to our Size, MS even offered SCCM for Free.
> But at Free we could not afford it's cost vs ZCM.
>
> And that was coming from the CIO and SCCM consultant..............
>
>
> On 11/29/2012 9:50 AM, Stevo wrote:
>> craig wilson sounds like they 'said':
>>
>>> The Idea with Mgmt Software is that it has a Negative Cost, even if
>>> you pay for it.
>>>
>>> ZCM does not require any additional cals or any cost outside of the
>>> software itself.
>>
>> So my response to craig's comment is...
>>
>> No maint on it or anything?
>>
>
>


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