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sharfuddin
30-Apr-2013, 20:46
what are Novell intentions about iFolder ?

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MS


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GofBorg
30-Apr-2013, 20:49
> what are Novell intentions about iFolder ?

They're still selling it.

Joseph Marton
30-Apr-2013, 21:25
sharfuddin wrote:

>
> what are Novell intentions about iFolder ?

It's still a part of OES and continues to see development effort with
security and bug fixes. In fact, some minimal new functionality was
included with the January OES maintenance updates by adding Windows 8
support to the iFolder client. Most new functionality though is going
to be in Filr and not iFolder. Think of Filr as the evolution of
iFolder, NetStorage, and QuickFinder.

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Renee Keller
01-May-2013, 13:25
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> They're still selling it.

And for some reason, they came out with Filr???

daniellench
01-May-2013, 16:44
First of all, they are not selling it. They never have, it is open
source and free. If you can build it from source you can get the latest
from sourceforge as the last RPM was for 3.8.4 server. Filr is nice but
only if you are already using the Novell fee based offering of software
such as OES or SLES, not openSUSE. I'm not sure if it will stand alone
like iFolder or if it can integrate into LDAP/AD

Are you asking about the open source development? That is updated on the
sourceforge site but there is no offical RPMs in the repo for anything
other than 3.8.4 and even then you are limited on which openSUSE version
you are using.

The big issues are having the correct mono version (2.6.7) and libflaim
(not libxflaim).

As of 3.9 and any subsequent release the development is only supported
and released for SLES or OES which are paid solutions, iFolder 3.9 is
not in the repos for openSUSE.
People have gotten iFolder server 3.8.4 to run under openSUSE 12.1 and
12.2 (waiting on a tutorial for 12.3 and nofolder.com is working on this
and i'm sure jeremy pavlov from yourlinuxguy.com is as well) (3.9 server
also)

I know that there are service contracts for a certain number of years
out there for OES and SLES and because of these contracts Novell HAS to
patch bugs and update for things like Windows 8 until those run out.
After that I have no doubt that iFolder will be retired permanently. I
personally believe this because of the Attachmate acquirement of Novell
and if you noticed, this forum (old novell forum) is netiq which is
owned by attachmate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetIQ and in case you
didn't know, attachmate and Microsoft are bed buddys

I think it's just business as usual for the "group"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachmate
"In January, 2009, Jeff Hawn, the president and CEO of Attachmate, was
sentenced to 10 days in jail for authorizing the 2008 slaughter of 32 of
his neighbor's bison that had wandered onto his Colorado ranch."

I know how great iFolder is and have found a group that agree. Join us
at nofolder.com to produce a superior product to iFolder while keeping
this open and free licensing model.

Best,
Daniel


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KeN Etter
01-May-2013, 18:18
On Wed, 01 May 2013 12:25:58 GMT, "Renee Keller" <kellerr13@yahoo.com>
wrote:

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>> They're still selling it.
>
>And for some reason, they came out with Filr???

Which looks to be an excellent product...getting ready to deploy Filr
here.

Joseph Marton
01-May-2013, 18:38
daniellench wrote:

> First of all, they are not selling it. They never have, it is open
> source and free.

Yes there's an open source version, but there's also the closed source
version included with OES. So yes it's also sold. :-)

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Massimo Rosen
01-May-2013, 23:22
On 01.05.2013 17:44, daniellench wrote:
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> First of all, they are not selling it. They never have,

You should urgently get your facts checked.

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Jim Henderson
02-May-2013, 00:14
On Wed, 01 May 2013 15:44:02 +0000, daniellench wrote:

> First of all, they are not selling it.

Yeah, actually, they do. It's an enterprise product on their price list,
with a per-seat licensing model and a maintenance option.

iFolder is dual licensed, from technology that Novell owns (not just
iFolder, but also FLAIM).

iFolder 2 was closed source and probably written in C or C++ (since it
was closed, it's not clear to me at least what it was originally written
in). I seem to recall they acquired the technology from somewhere, but I
might be thinking of a different product.

This forum is a Novell forum (but the chat forum is on Novell, SUSE, and
NetIQ forum sites - it's the same forum). Novell was acquired by
Attachmate in May of 2011 - and in case you didn't know, Novell and
Microsoft have a collaboration agreement as well (but I'm not sure what
that has to do with anything).

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Douglas Black
03-May-2013, 13:42
Jim Henderson,
>
> iFolder 2 was closed source and probably written in C or C++ (since it
> was closed, it's not clear to me at least what it was originally written
> in). I seem to recall they acquired the technology from somewhere, but I
> might be thinking of a different product.
>

I wish it was still being developed/supported. I like it much better
than iFolder 3.

Joseph Marton
03-May-2013, 15:27
Douglas Black wrote:

> I wish it was still being developed/supported. I like it much better
> than iFolder 3.

That's what Filr is for!

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Jim Henderson
03-May-2013, 23:26
On Fri, 03 May 2013 12:42:54 +0000, Douglas Black wrote:

> Jim Henderson,
>>
>> iFolder 2 was closed source and probably written in C or C++ (since it
>> was closed, it's not clear to me at least what it was originally
>> written in). I seem to recall they acquired the technology from
>> somewhere, but I might be thinking of a different product.
>>
>>
> I wish it was still being developed/supported. I like it much better
> than iFolder 3.

Same here. iFolder 3 has some useful features (and my experience stopped
with version 3.4 IIRC), but the lack of database repair tools caused some
problems. Just like with NRS, come to that.

If the workstation's database stays structurally valid, it works great.
If it doesn't, you have to start over because there's no way to fix it
(at least not that I saw).

Jim

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