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GofBorg
26-Sep-2013, 18:08
Anyone have an idea what to do with 'Microsoft System Update Readiness Tool'
that downloads as a .bin file? Cannot open it or run it with anything and
as usual MS has nothing but nebulous instructions for using it.

Downloaded from here:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/confirmation.aspx?id=20858

Massimo Rosen
26-Sep-2013, 18:45
On 26.09.2013 19:08, GofBorg wrote:
> Anyone have an idea what to do with 'Microsoft System Update Readiness Tool'
> that downloads as a .bin file? Cannot open it or run it with anything and
> as usual MS has nothing but nebulous instructions for using it.
>
> Downloaded from here:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/confirmation.aspx?id=20858
>
Downloads as a .msu here, and can readily be doubleclicked in explorer.

CU,
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GofBorg
26-Sep-2013, 18:48
Massimo Rosen wrote:

> On 26.09.2013 19:08, GofBorg wrote:
>> Anyone have an idea what to do with 'Microsoft System Update Readiness
>> Tool' that downloads as a .bin file? Cannot open it or run it with
>> anything and as usual MS has nothing but nebulous instructions for using
>> it.
>>
>> Downloaded from here:
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/confirmation.aspx?id=20858
>>
> Downloads as a .msu here, and can readily be doubleclicked in explorer.

Really? That's just bizarre. I've downloaded form two different machines
and both arrive and ask to be saved as .bin?

GofBorg
26-Sep-2013, 18:50
> Really? That's just bizarre. I've downloaded form two different machines
> and both arrive and ask to be saved as .bin?

Seems as though I can rename it to .msu and it works....again...b0rked
software.

kgroneman
26-Sep-2013, 20:17
It's a ploy by the software industry to keep IT people
employeed....kind of like the state of Oregon making it against the law
to pump your own gas. They do stuff like this so untrained people
can't deal with it and they have to hire IT people. It keeps all my
friends employed.

--
Kim - 9/26/2013 1:15:12 PM

Jim Henderson
26-Sep-2013, 20:26
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 19:17:13 +0000, kgroneman wrote:

> It's a ploy by the software industry to keep IT people employeed....kind
> of like the state of Oregon making it against the law to pump your own
> gas. They do stuff like this so untrained people can't deal with it and
> they have to hire IT people. It keeps all my friends employed.

Interestingly, keeping unemployment down is one reason cited for the law
in Oregon. I didn't know that. (It's not the only reason, but it's one
of many). I've also observed that in New Jersey.

Jim
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Jim Henderson, CNA6, CDE, CNI, LPIC-1, CLA10, CLP10
Novell/SUSE/NetIQ Knowledge Partner

GofBorg
26-Sep-2013, 20:39
> It's a ploy by the software industry to keep IT people
> employeed....kind of like the state of Oregon making it against the law
> to pump your own gas. They do stuff like this so untrained people
> can't deal with it and they have to hire IT people. It keeps all my
> friends employed.
>

Oddly I once considered a career pumping gas back when 'Full Service'
stations existed. Of course I was 5 then.

GofBorg
26-Sep-2013, 20:43
> It's a ploy by the software industry to keep IT people
> employeed.

Except that is so b0rked these days even IT folks can't repair
this garbage. Oh I can, it's called reinstall Windows. I just
love it when that became the 'solution' to everything.

FWIW I have a Win7 laptop that has a hosed update mechanism.
I am almost through this entire page:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2509997

Nothing has worked. Really don't want to reinstall but it's looking
like the only option.

GofBorg
26-Sep-2013, 20:45
> It's a ploy by the software industry to keep IT people
> employeed....kind of like the state of Oregon making it against the law
> to pump your own gas. They do stuff like this so untrained people
> can't deal with it and they have to hire IT people. It keeps all my
> friends employed.
>
Oh, and occasionally I like to actually USE a computer rather than fix
it before I can use it. Last night spent 3 hours fixing my daughters iPad
that refused to synch properly. But I'm not bittter. :)

kgroneman
26-Sep-2013, 22:08
Hey Jim Henderson,

>Interestingly, keeping unemployment down is one reason cited for the
>law in Oregon.

I thought it was the only reason.

--
Kim - 9/26/2013 3:08:11 PM

Jim Henderson
26-Sep-2013, 22:41
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 21:08:22 +0000, kgroneman wrote:

> Hey Jim Henderson,
>
>>Interestingly, keeping unemployment down is one reason cited for the law
>>in Oregon.
>
> I thought it was the only reason.

Nope, there are a few others, including (I was a little surprised to see,
actually) that gasoline+water=slippery, and Oregon gets lots of rain.

But the bottom line is "tradition" - it's the way they've done it for a
long time, and even with voter referendums, the voters like it that way.
They don't have to get out of their cars in the rain to fill the tank.

Jim
--
Jim Henderson, CNA6, CDE, CNI, LPIC-1, CLA10, CLP10
Novell/SUSE/NetIQ Knowledge Partner

Jim Henderson
26-Sep-2013, 22:42
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 19:43:44 +0000, GofBorg wrote:

> Nothing has worked. Really don't want to reinstall but it's looking like
> the only option.

That's why my Windows installs are virtual, with a "last known working
configuration" snapshot that gets updated periodically.

Jim



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Jim Henderson, CNA6, CDE, CNI, LPIC-1, CLA10, CLP10
Novell/SUSE/NetIQ Knowledge Partner

Scott Campbell
27-Sep-2013, 01:14
GofBorg wrote:

> Oddly I once considered a career pumping gas back when 'Full Service'
> stations existed. Of course I was 5 then.

I tried to get a job at a petrol station. Apparently I wasn't good
enough for even a second interview/return call - now I have to slum it
in IT :-D

GofBorg
03-Oct-2013, 19:27
> That's why my Windows installs are virtual, with a "last known working
> configuration" snapshot that gets updated periodically.

That's great for you and I JIm, but this laptop is owned by someone with
exceptionally low skillz which is often how these things end up on my door.

Jim Henderson
03-Oct-2013, 20:03
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:27:56 +0000, GofBorg wrote:

>> That's why my Windows installs are virtual, with a "last known working
>> configuration" snapshot that gets updated periodically.
>
> That's great for you and I JIm, but this laptop is owned by someone with
> exceptionally low skillz which is often how these things end up on my
> door.

Well, I don't know what to tell you then....Get them hooked on a Mac,
then they can go to the Apple store for help.

Jim



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Jim Henderson, CNA6, CDE, CNI, LPIC-1, CLA10, CLP10
Novell/SUSE/NetIQ Knowledge Partner

GofBorg
07-Oct-2013, 16:14
>>> That's why my Windows installs are virtual, with a "last known working
>>> configuration" snapshot that gets updated periodically.
>>
>> That's great for you and I JIm, but this laptop is owned by someone with
>> exceptionally low skillz which is often how these things end up on my
>> door.
>
> Well, I don't know what to tell you then....Get them hooked on a Mac,
> then they can go to the Apple store for help.

:) That's what's happening. Thus the 'death of the PC' proclamations.