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ovidiuz
18-Feb-2015, 14:13
Hey guys,

Has anyone successfully mirrored the SLES 11 SP4 repositories using SMT?

SLES11-SP4-Pool and SLES11-SP4-Updates only contain the three repomd.xml.* files after a successful run of smt-mirror.

Also, the SLE11-SDK-SP4 repos are listed by smt-catalogs, but cannot be mirrored.

Any information about this would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Ovidiu

smflood
18-Feb-2015, 16:01
On 18/02/2015 13:14, ovidiuz wrote:

> Has anyone successfully mirrored the SLES 11 SP4 repositories using
> SMT?
>
> SLES11-SP4-Pool and SLES11-SP4-Updates only contain the three
> repomd.xml.* files after a successful run of smt-mirror.
>
> Also, the SLE11-SDK-SP4 repos are listed by smt-catalogs, but cannot be
> mirrored.
>
> Any information about this would be appreciated.

Since SLES11 SP4 hasn't yet been released it's hardly surprising that
you can't mirror any related repositories.

HTH.
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Simon
SUSE Knowledge Partner

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sdrake1
18-Feb-2015, 16:12
Perhaps the release notes for sp4 shouldn't have been posted without an expected date of actual release:
https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/11-SP4/

smflood
18-Feb-2015, 17:38
On 18/02/2015 15:14, sdrake1 wrote:

> Perhaps the release notes for sp4 shouldn't have been posted without an
> expected date of actual release:
> https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/11-SP4/

Whilst releases notes for SP4 may be available that doesn't mean it's
actually been released (which it hasn't). If you take a closer look
you'll find some references to "CHECKIT:11_3" where things need to be
checked against SP3. Essentially these notes are work in progress until
SP4 is actually released which will be officially announced at
suse.com/press at that time.

HTH.
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SUSE Knowledge Partner

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mikewillis
18-Feb-2015, 17:59
On 18/02/2015 15:14, sdrake1 wrote:

> Perhaps the release notes for sp4 shouldn't have been posted without an
> expected date of actual release:
> https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/11-SP4/

Whilst releases notes for SP4 may be available that doesn't mean it's
actually been released (which it hasn't). If you take a closer look
you'll find some references to "CHECKIT:11_3" where things need to be
checked against SP3. Essentially these notes are work in progress until
SP4 is actually released which will be officially announced at
suse.com/press at that time.


The release notes have been available for a while but as far as I know they're only findable if you fiddle with the url for release notes for earlier versions rather than there being links to them on the SUSE website?

OP - How did you find the SP4 release notes?

smflood
18-Feb-2015, 19:07
On 18/02/2015 17:04, mikewillis wrote:

> The release notes have been available for a while but as far as I know
> they're only findable if you fiddle with the url for release notes for
> earlier versions rather than there being links to them on the SUSE
> website?

It's the second hit for me when I ask a well known search engine for
"sles11 sp4" ... unsurprising since it's a public URL so it'll be
indexed thus findable.

HTH.
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ovidiuz
18-Feb-2015, 19:08
On 18/02/2015 13:14, ovidiuz wrote:

> Has anyone successfully mirrored the SLES 11 SP4 repositories using
> SMT?
>
> SLES11-SP4-Pool and SLES11-SP4-Updates only contain the three
> repomd.xml.* files after a successful run of smt-mirror.
>
> Also, the SLE11-SDK-SP4 repos are listed by smt-catalogs, but cannot be
> mirrored.
>
> Any information about this would be appreciated.

Since SLES11 SP4 hasn't yet been released it's hardly surprising that
you can't mirror any related repositories.

HTH.
--
Simon
SUSE Knowledge Partner

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I was under the impression that it was released on Feb,11th, as stated by Wikipedia and, more importantly, by SuSE's website itself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_Enterprise_Server#Version_history
https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/11-SP4/

Are you sure it hasn't been released yet? Is there any official webpage where this can be checked? Nowhere in the Release Notes linked above does it say SP4 is still in beta...

Thanks,
Ovidiu

ovidiuz
18-Feb-2015, 19:24
LE: Sorry, it's only now that I see all replies - I checked my email and rushed into replying (it looks like subscribing to a thread and requesting to be notified by email does not notify you of all the replies you receive).

Thanks for clarifying this for me. I still think it's misleading to publish "Release Notes" for an unreleased service pack, without any mention that this is an unreleased product...
Related to Wikipedia, it looks like the SP4 info was added by a certain Rohan Mangal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SUSE_Linux_Enterprise_Server&action=history
Good example on showing Wikipedia shouldn't really be trusted....

mikewillis
18-Feb-2015, 23:13
On 18/02/2015 17:04, mikewillis wrote:

> The release notes have been available for a while but as far as I know
> they're only findable if you fiddle with the url for release notes for
> earlier versions rather than there being links to them on the SUSE
> website?

It's the second hit for me when I ask a well known search engine for
"sles11 sp4" ... unsurprising since it's a public URL so it'll be
indexed thus findable.


But to show up in search engine results the search engine has to have found the page and the search engine is only going to find the page if it follows a link to it. Which means the release notes must be linked to from somewhere, and I would be very surprised if they're linked to on the SUSE website.

My theory is they show up because they got linked to in this thread
https://forums.suse.com/showthread.php?5786-release-date-for-sled-11-sp4

They Wikipedia link to them mentioned by the OP in another post was only added two days ago.

mikewillis
18-Feb-2015, 23:22
LE: Sorry, it's only now that I see all replies - I checked my email and rushed into replying (it looks like subscribing to a thread and requesting to be notified by email does not notify you of all the replies you receive).

Emails notifying you of a reply have some text at the end which reads "There may also be other replies, but you will not receive any more notifications until you visit the forum again."



Thanks for clarifying this for me. I still think it's misleading to publish "Release Notes" for an unreleased service pack, without any mention that this is an unreleased product...
Related to Wikipedia, it looks like the SP4 info was added by a certain Rohan Mangal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SUSE_Linux_Enterprise_Server&action=history
Good example on showing Wikipedia shouldn't really be trusted....

The release notes are not, as far as I'm aware, linked to by SUSE they are only findable if you tweak the url of existing release notes, or find a link in the forums that someone posted after they found them. As such they are not yet published by SUSE.

If SP4 had been released the release notes would be linked to from https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/ (which right now they are not) and it would be available to download from https://download.suse.com/

maikcat
18-Mar-2015, 13:13
today i noticed that sp4-pool repo with rpms appeared and tried to update a test system to sp4,

update went ok but /etc/issue shows:

Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP4 Beta3 (x86_64) - Kernel \r (\l).


Beta3? :S

linux-test:~ # uname -a
Linux linux-test 3.0.101-50-default #1 SMP Fri Feb 27 12:20:46 UTC 2015 (c7cb1a9) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

linux-test:~ # lsb_release -a
LSB Version: core-2.0-noarch:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-noarch:core-2.0-x86_64:core-3.2-x86_64:core-4.0-x86_64:desktop-4.0-amd64:desktop-4.0-noarch:graphics-2.0-amd64:graphics-2.0-noarch:graphics-3.2-amd64:graphics-3.2-noarch:graphics-4.0-amd64:graphics-4.0-noarch
Distributor ID: SUSE LINUX
Description: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 (x86_64)
Release: 11
Codename: n/a


anyone else can verify this?

Michael.

mikewillis
18-Mar-2015, 13:29
today i noticed that sp4-pool repo with rpms appeared and tried to update a test system to sp4,

update went ok but /etc/issue shows:

Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP4 Beta3 (x86_64) - Kernel \r (\l).


Beta3? :S


I don't know what the state of SP4 currently is but given there's not been an announcement saying it's been released so that what you've found and decided to install has Beta written on it doesn't surprise me.