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horiba
17-Jul-2015, 06:19
Hello,

the SLES11-Extras repo has become pretty barren lately:

# zypper pa -r nu_novell_com:SLES11-Extras
Metadaten von Repository 'SLES11-Extras' abrufen [FERTIG]
Cache fr Repository 'SLES11-Extras' erzeugen [FERTIG]
Repository-Daten werden geladen...
Installierte Pakete werden gelesen...
S | Repository | Name | Version | Architektur
--+---------------+--------------+---------------+------------
| SLES11-Extras | yum | 3.2.20-2.16.1 | x86_64
| SLES11-Extras | yum-updatesd | 3.2.20-2.16.1 | x86_64

Did I miss an announcement?

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horiba
03-Sep-2015, 12:55
Hello,

the SLES11-Extras repo has become pretty barren lately:

# zypper pa -r nu_novell_com:SLES11-Extras
Metadaten von Repository 'SLES11-Extras' abrufen [FERTIG]
Cache fr Repository 'SLES11-Extras' erzeugen [FERTIG]
Repository-Daten werden geladen...
Installierte Pakete werden gelesen...
S | Repository | Name | Version | Architektur
--+---------------+--------------+---------------+------------
| SLES11-Extras | yum | 3.2.20-2.16.1 | x86_64
| SLES11-Extras | yum-updatesd | 3.2.20-2.16.1 | x86_64

Did I miss an announcement?

Before the SLES11-Extras repository was emptied, it contained the kernel-extras package for all SP3 kernels.

Where did they go? Those are important!

malcolmlewis
03-Sep-2015, 13:29
On Thu 03 Sep 2015 12:04:02 PM CDT, horiba wrote:


horiba;28782 Wrote:
> Hello,
>
> the SLES11-Extras repo has become pretty barren lately:
> >
Code:
--------------------
> > # zypper pa -r nu_novell_com:SLES11-Extras
> Metadaten von Repository 'SLES11-Extras' abrufen [FERTIG]
> Cache f_r Repository 'SLES11-Extras' erzeugen [FERTIG]
> Repository-Daten werden geladen...
> Installierte Pakete werden gelesen...
> S | Repository | Name | Version | Architektur
> --+---------------+--------------+---------------+------------
> | SLES11-Extras | yum | 3.2.20-2.16.1 | x86_64
> | SLES11-Extras | yum-updatesd | 3.2.20-2.16.1 | x86_64
--------------------
> >
>
> Did I miss an announcement?

Before the SLES11-Extras repository was emptied, it contained the
kernel-extras package for all SP3 kernels.

Where did they go? Those are important!




Hi
Should the systems have not been migrated to SCC? These aren't OES
systems are they?

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horiba
03-Sep-2015, 14:02
Hi
Should the systems have not been migrated to SCC? These aren't OES
systems are they?

--

It is on SCC.
Nevertheless the SLES11-Extras repo on our SMT is as empty as this listing.

malcolmlewis
03-Sep-2015, 14:22
On Thu 03 Sep 2015 01:04:01 PM CDT, horiba wrote:


malcolmlewis;29459 Wrote:
> Hi
> Should the systems have not been migrated to SCC? These aren't OES
> systems are they?
>
> --

It is on SCC.
Nevertheless the SLES11-Extras repo on our SMT is as empty as this
listing.




Hi
The only place I see kernel-{default/xen}-extra package is in the
SLED 11 SP3 update channel... Is this the package(s).

Or do you have a specific kernel module that is used, perhaps some
details of actual packages would help my search...

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horiba
03-Sep-2015, 14:41
Hi
The only place I see kernel-{default/xen}-extra package is in the
SLED 11 SP3 update channel... Is this the package(s).

Or do you have a specific kernel module that is used, perhaps some
details of actual packages would help my search...


the SLES11-Extras channel contained (before SP4 was released):
ext4-writeable-kmp-(flavour)
kernel-(flavour)-extra

and a few others.

Our product needs kernel-extra because the CAN-Modules (sja1000 and ems_pci) are only in this package.
Without those our product won't work.
If SuSE stopped building these modules altogether for SLES then we are forced to stay on SP3 (on an old kernel) or build our own kernel.

On SLES12 the situation is different. Here the Extra-Modules are in the Workstation Extension, which can be licensed. So they are there, though with additional hassle. On SLES11 they're missing from the product altogether. Why?

Or are we lucky and the two modules we need have been moved to the default kernel? I didn't check but it's not very probable...

malcolmlewis
03-Sep-2015, 15:34
On Thu 03 Sep 2015 01:44:02 PM CDT, horiba wrote:

Or are we lucky and the two modules we need have been moved to the
default kernel? I didn't check but it's not very probable...


Hi
They are all part of the kernel (note: tested with SLED 11 SP3), with
ext4 you have to set the rw option...


uname -a
Linux kermit 3.0.101-0.47.55-default #1 SMP Thu May 28 08:25:11 UTC 2015 (dc083ee) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

/sbin/modinfo ext4
filename: /lib/modules/3.0.101-0.47.55-default/kernel/fs/ext4/ext4.ko
license: GPL description: Fourth Extended Filesystem
author: Remy Card, Stephen Tweedie, Andrew Morton, Andreas
Dilger, Theodore Ts'o and others srcversion: BB4C1FC87977F99C289F4D1
depends: mbcache,jbd2,crc16
supported: yes
vermagic: 3.0.101-0.47.55-default SMP mod_unload modversions
signer: SUSE Linux Enterprise Secure Boot Signkey
sig_key:
3F:B0:77:B6:CE:BC:6F:F2:52:2E:1C:14:8C:57:C7:77:C7 :88:E3:E7
sig_hashalgo: sha256 parm: rw:Allow read-write file systems
(marks kernel as unsupported when mounted read-write)

/sbin/modinfo ems_pci
filename: /lib/modules/3.0.101-0.47.55-default/kernel/drivers/net/can/sja1000/ems_pci.ko
license: GPL v2 description: Socket-CAN driver for EMS
CPC-PCI/PCIe/104P CAN cards author: Sebastian Haas
<haas@ems-wuenche.com> srcversion: A14DC06C64B98FED31A07B9
alias: pci:v000010B5d00009030sv000010B5sd00004002bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v000010B5d00009030sv000010B5sd00004000bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v0000110Ad00002104sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
depends: sja1000
vermagic: 3.0.101-0.47.55-default SMP mod_unload modversions
signer: SUSE Linux Enterprise Secure Boot Signkey
sig_key:
3F:B0:77:B6:CE:BC:6F:F2:52:2E:1C:14:8C:57:C7:77:C7 :88:E3:E7
sig_hashalgo: sha256

/sbin/modinfo sja1000
filename: /lib/modules/3.0.101-0.47.55-default/kernel/drivers/net/can/sja1000/sja1000.ko
description: sja1000CAN netdevice driver
license: Dual BSD/GPL
author: Oliver Hartkopp <oliver.hartkopp@volkswagen.de>
srcversion: 7E817C3229DFD6E8BD1AA8Fdepends: can-dev
vermagic: 3.0.101-0.47.55-default SMP mod_unload modversions
signer: SUSE Linux Enterprise Secure Boot Signkey
sig_key:
3F:B0:77:B6:CE:BC:6F:F2:52:2E:1C:14:8C:57:C7:77:C7 :88:E3:E7
sig_hashalgo: sha256


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horiba
04-Sep-2015, 07:40
Hi
They are all part of the kernel (note: tested with SLED 11 SP3), with
ext4 you have to set the rw option...


not true for SLES unfortunately. I checked a fresh SLES11SP4 and SuSE doesn't believe in CAN-busses on Servers.
checked on 3.0.101-63-pae
ems_pci does not exist
sja1000 does not exist

SLES11-Extras seems to be abandoned completely (zypper complains that it is out of date). Though smt-mirror syncs it every night.

Looks like we need to stay on SP3 as long as we're selling SLES11. Or we need to nab the kernel from SLED - not sure if there's license that allows this - probably not.

ataschner
04-Sep-2015, 09:33
Hi


Hello,

the SLES11-Extras repo has become pretty barren lately:
[...]
Did I miss an announcement?

No you certainly did not.
I have discussed it with the SUSE maintanance team and the packages are still supposed to be there.
Something had apparently gone wrong for this channel during a system switch, but nobody has approached SUSE support about it.

They are working on fixing it now. This thread will be updated once the repository is up and running again.

//Andreas

mge1512
04-Sep-2015, 10:55
With respect to CAN-bus modules, I suggest you open a Service Request with SUSE's support organization, thus this topic can be considered as a feature request for future versions (service packs) of SUSE Linux Enterprise Server.

Thanks in advance -
So long -
MgE

msmeissn
08-Sep-2015, 11:58
We refilled the EXTRAS repositories with the previous content.

Sorry for the inconviences caused.

Ciao, Marcus

horiba
08-Sep-2015, 13:59
We refilled the EXTRAS repositories with the previous content.

Sorry for the inconviences caused.

Ciao, Marcus

Confirmed - they're back! Thank you!