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    Migrating to SLED11-SP2

    I've decided to open this thread to clarify the issues only briefly mentioned in SLED documents, notably
    SUSE_SLED-SP2-migration, a product to migrate to SUSE_SLED Service Pack 2.
    Migration is covered in Novell documents referring to on-line update, whereas update from the DVD lacks such steps.

    Having read, after updating SLED11-SP1 to SP2 via DVD, about a migration tool
    http://forums.suse.com/showthread.ph...D-11-SP2/page3, after updating SLED11-SP1 to SP2 via DVD,
    I checked the state of upgrading, and faced a couple of conflicts in the transaction that must be solved manually.

    Installed product:SUSE_SLED-11.2-1.513.i586 obsoletes SUSE_SLED-SP2-migration provided by product:SUSE_SLED-SP2-migration-11.1.-1.6.i586
    - downgrade of product:SUSE_SLED-11.2-1.513.i586 to product:SUSE_SLED-11.1.-1.206.i586
    - do not install product:SUSE_SLED-SP2-migration-11.1-1.6.i586

    product:SUSE_SLED-11.2-1.513.i586 requires sled-release=11.2-1.513, but this requirement cannot be provided
    - downgrade of product:SUSE_SLED-11.2-1.513.i586 to product:SUSE_SLED-11.1.-1.206.i586
    - do not install product:SUSE_SLED-SP2-migration-11.1-1.6.i586
    - break product:SUSE_SLED-11.2-1.513.i586 by ignoring some of its dependencies

    At this point questions as to migration process in finalising update from SP1 to SP2 arise:
    1. Do we actually need to install product:SUSE_SLED-SP2-migration?
    2. Is updating completed without installing SUSE_SLED-SP2-migration package or not?
    3. Will downgrading of product:SUSE_SLED-11.2-1.513.i586 to product:SUSE_SLED-11.1.-1.206.i586, as YaST suggests, in fact downgrade the system SP2 (_SLED-11.2) back to SP1 (_SLED-11.1)?

    If this is clear for SLED pundits, could someone share his/her expertise in resolving the above conflicts?
    Thanks

    Lliner

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    Re: Migrating to SLED11-SP2

    Quote Originally Posted by LLiner View Post
    Having read, after updating SLED11-SP1 to SP2 via DVD, about a migration tool
    Do you mean 'without a migration tool'?

    You don't say exactly what is you've done prior to encountering the problems you mention.

    Have a look at
    http://www.novell.com/support/kb/doc.php?id=7010200
    there's a section "Procedure for upgrading from SLES / SLED 11 SP1" and then two further sections, one on how to do it online with patches and the migration tool and how to do it from the DVD. The section "Update via using a SLE 11 SP2 installation media" doesn't mention applying all outstanding updates before attempting to upgrade to SP2, but I'd advise doing so.

  3. #3

    Re: Migrating to SLED11-SP2

    Hi, Mike, thank you for rely.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikewillis View Post
    Do you mean 'without a migration tool'?
    I think you are right, "without", as no SUSE_SLED-SP2-migration is mentioned in Document
    http://www.novell.com/support/kb/doc.php?id=7010200, chapter referring to
    "3) Update by booting from a SLES/SLED 11 SP2 media".

    Quote Originally Posted by mikewillis View Post
    You don't say exactly what is you've done prior to encountering the problems you mention.
    So having successfully updated through the DVD option '-->Select "Update an Existing System"',
    then as there were no SP2 repositories installed (maybe because I did update off-line),
    I refresed repositories in Zypper and updated the patches. For example, Kernel is upgarded to 3.0.34-0.7.9, etc.
    The system rebooted successfully. I saw no major problems, as the system works, eccept some
    packages failing (Cheese, Virtualbox, WMvare and some conflicting packages in clamtk, with clamv working).

    As no extra instructions in http://www.novell.com/support/kb/doc.php?id=7010200
    for update via DVD are listed, I decided that I was already working in SP2.

    My concern appeared after I searched for "SP2" in 'Available', the SP2-Migration tool, I learnt from Arnaudk93 post "HP Notebook Owners Update to SLED 11 SP2".

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    Re: Migrating to SLED11-SP2

    Quote Originally Posted by LLiner View Post
    packages failing (Cheese, Virtualbox, WMvare and some conflicting packages in clamtk, with clamv working).
    VirtualBox and VMWare probably just need to have their kernel modules rebuilt. There is no package called clamtk in either SLED or SLE-SDK so presumably you installed that yourself, maybe you need to re-install it or something. I would expect Cheese to still work.

    What's the output of
    Code:
    $ cat /etc/novell-release
    $ zypper lr -u

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    Re: Migrating to SLED11-SP2

    Quote Originally Posted by mikewillis View Post
    VirtualBox and VMWare probably just need to have their kernel modules rebuilt.
    Here my understanding of migration stops short: IBM treat "The goal of migration is to allow you to continue to work in the current version or the product with projects that you developed in previous versions", so either my system migration is not complete, or Novell use another meaning for this word? (OpenSUSE Glossary in Russian gives Migration as transfer of (applications & data)

    Quote Originally Posted by mikewillis View Post
    There is no package called clamtk in either SLED or SLE-SDK so presumably you installed that yourself, maybe you need to re-install it or something.
    Yes, I installed ClamTk, a handy GUI front-end for ClamAV, Version : 4.41-1.3 Vendor: openSUSE Build Service. I believed that if clamav 0.96 is part of SLED11-SP2, its front-end serves as inalienable part.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikewillis View Post
    I would expect Cheese to still work.
    I'd rather it worked. But according to Cheese manual FAQ "3. As Cheese uses the gstreamer backend, it is most likely because gstreamer is not detecting the webcam (or gstreamer has become corrupt)." Testing with gstreamer produces the same result: Rainbow vertical colours in place of picture.

    Code:
    $ cat /etc/novell-release
    SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (i586)
    VERSION = 11
    PATCHLEVEL = 2
    Code:
    $ zypper lr -u
    #  | Alias                                             | Name                                              | Enabled | Refresh | URI                                                                                               
    ---+---------------------------------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+---------+---------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     1 | ATI-Driver-HP-BNB-SLE11-SP2                       | ATI-Driver-HP-BNB-SLE11-SP2                       | No      | No      | http://www2.ati.com/suse/hp/bnb/2012/sle11sp2                                                     
     2 | Broadcom-Driver-HP-BNB-SLE11-SP2                  | Broadcom-Driver-HP-BNB-SLE11-SP2                  | Yes     | Yes     | http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/repo/HP/bnb/2012/sle11sp2                                  
     3 | DISK-PKG                                          | DISK-PKG                                          | No      | Yes     | dir:///usr/local/packgs                                                                           
     4 | Essentials                                        | Essentials                                        | Yes     | Yes     | http://pmbs.links2linux.org/download/Essentials/SLE-11-SP2/                                       
     5 | LSI-Driver-HP-BNB-SLE11-SP2                       | LSI-Driver-HP-BNB-SLE11-SP2                       | Yes     | Yes     | http://www.lsi.com/sep/Pages/SML/HP/NL/hp/bnb/2012/sle11sp2                                       
     6 | SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-Desktop-11-SP2 11.2.2-1.193 | SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-Desktop-11-SP2 11.2.2-1.193 | Yes     | No      | cd:///?devices=/dev/sr0                                                                           
     7 | VALIDITYINC-Driver-HP-BNB-SLE11-SP2               | VALIDITYINC-Driver-HP-BNB-SLE11-SP2               | Yes     | Yes     | http://www.validityinc.com/uploads/hp/bnb/2012/sle11sp2                                           
     8 | nu_novell_com:SLE11-SP1-Debuginfo-Pool            | SLE11-SP1-Debuginfo-Pool                          | No      | Yes     | https://nu.novell.com/repo/$RCE/SLE11-SP1-Debuginfo-Pool/sle-11-i586?credentials=NCCcredentials   
     9 | nu_novell_com:SLE11-SP1-Debuginfo-Updates         | SLE11-SP1-Debuginfo-Updates                       | No      | Yes     | https://nu.novell.com/repo/$RCE/SLE11-SP1-Debuginfo-Updates/sle-11-i586?credentials=NCCcredentials
    10 | nu_novell_com:SLE11-SP2-Debuginfo-Core            | SLE11-SP2-Debuginfo-Core                          | No      | Yes     | https://nu.novell.com/repo/$RCE/SLE11-SP2-Debuginfo-Core/sle-11-i586?credentials=NCCcredentials   
    11 | nu_novell_com:SLE11-SP2-Debuginfo-Updates         | SLE11-SP2-Debuginfo-Updates                       | No      | Yes     | https://nu.novell.com/repo/$RCE/SLE11-SP2-Debuginfo-Updates/sle-11-i586?credentials=NCCcredentials
    12 | nu_novell_com:SLED11-Extras                       | SLED11-Extras                                     | No      | Yes     | https://nu.novell.com/repo/$RCE/SLED11-Extras/sle-11-i586?credentials=NCCcredentials              
    13 | nu_novell_com:SLED11-SP1-HP-BNB-Updates           | SLED11-SP1-HP-BNB-Updates                         | No      | Yes     | https://nu.novell.com/repo/$RCE/SLED11-SP1-HP-BNB-Updates/sle-11-i586?credentials=NCCcredentials  
    14 | nu_novell_com:SLED11-SP1-Pool                     | SLED11-SP1-Pool                                   | Yes     | Yes     | https://nu.novell.com/repo/$RCE/SLED11-SP1-Pool/sle-11-i586?credentials=NCCcredentials            
    15 | nu_novell_com:SLED11-SP1-Updates                  | SLED11-SP1-Updates                                | Yes     | Yes     | https://nu.novell.com/repo/$RCE/SLED11-SP1-Updates/sle-11-i586?credentials=NCCcredentials         
    16 | nu_novell_com:SLED11-SP2-Core                     | SLED11-SP2-Core                                   | Yes     | Yes     | https://nu.novell.com/repo/$RCE/SLED11-SP2-Core/sle-11-i586?credentials=NCCcredentials            
    17 | nu_novell_com:SLED11-SP2-HP-BNB-Updates           | SLED11-SP2-HP-BNB-Updates                         | Yes     | Yes     | https://nu.novell.com/repo/$RCE/SLED11-SP2-HP-BNB-Updates/sle-11-i586?credentials=NCCcredentials  
    18 | nu_novell_com:SLED11-SP2-Updates                  | SLED11-SP2-Updates                                | Yes     | Yes     | https://nu.novell.com/repo/$RCE/SLED11-SP2-Updates/sle-11-i586?credentials=NCCcredentials
    DISK-PKG repo is used for ad-hoc installation of uploaded packages, while working off-line.

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    Re: Migrating to SLED11-SP2

    Quote Originally Posted by LLiner View Post
    Here my understanding of migration stops short: IBM treat "The goal of migration is to allow you to continue to work in the current version or the product with projects that you developed in previous versions", so either my system migration is not complete, or Novell use another meaning for this word? (OpenSUSE Glossary in Russian gives Migration as transfer of (applications & data)
    I think migration means what you think it means. Neither VMWare nor VirtualBox are part of SLED though, so I doubt the SLED migration process takes them in to account.
    In my experience both VMware and VirtualBox will need their kernel modules re-built after any kernel update, not just Service Pack update. I use VMWare Workstation and have a script run during boot that checks whether the VMWare modules need to be rebuilt
    Code:
    # check if vmware modules are built for current kernel, if not then rebuild them
    if [ -z "$(find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name vmmon.ko)" ];then
       vmware-modconfig --console --install-all
    fi
    I have it as part of some other scripts that run during boot but I expect it would work if put in /etc/init.d/boot.local (You might need to change /lib to /lib64 for 64bit system, not sure don't have access to one to check just now.)

    I'd rather it worked. But according to Cheese manual FAQ "3. As Cheese uses the gstreamer backend, it is most likely because gstreamer is not detecting the webcam (or gstreamer has become corrupt)." Testing with gstreamer produces the same result: Rainbow vertical colours in place of picture.
    Ah, what you describe is not the same as Cheese not working as you originally indicated. Cheese is working, it just doesn't see your webcam. Did it see this webcam with SP1? What's the make/model/usbid of your webcam? To get usbid you can use
    Code:
    $ lsusb

    You have the SP2-Core and SP2-Updates repos set up and /etc/novell-release says you're using SP2, so looks to me like you've successfully upgraded but just have a few niggles to sort out.

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    Re: Migrating to SLED11-SP2

    Many thanks, Mike for a very good news:
    Quote Originally Posted by mikewillis View Post
    ...novell-release says you're using SP2, so looks to me like you've successfully upgraded.
    Code:
     lsusb
    Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05c8:0403 Cheng Uei Precision Industry Co., Ltd (Foxlink) Webcam
    Bus 006 Device 002: ID 045e:0040 Microsoft Corp. Wheel Mouse Optical
    Also, From dmesg:
    Code:
    [    4.313208] usb 1-5: New USB device found, idVendor=05c8, idProduct=0403
    [    4.313250] usb 1-5: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=1, SerialNumber=2
    [    4.313282] usb 1-5: Product: HP Webcam [2 MP Fixed]
    [    4.313314] usb 1-5: Manufacturer: Foxlink
    [    4.313346] usb 1-5: SerialNumber: 200909240102
     
    [    7.988136] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
    [    8.052989] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device HP Webcam [2 MP Fixed] (05c8:0403)
    [    8.070447] input: HP Webcam [2 MP Fixed] as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.7/usb1/1-5/1-5:1.0/input/input6
    [    8.070592] usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo
    [    8.070633] USB Video Class driver (v1.1.0)
    From Linux UVC driver and tools http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/#devices
    I can see that 05c8:0403 (Foxlink) Webcam is listed as supported UVC (USB Video Cam) device.
    In SLED11-SP1 it worked OK, and previous pictures remain in the Cheese folder.

    What I also noticed missing rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1, rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1, rpmlib(PayloadIsLzma) <= 4.4.2-1
    required by the installed package Cheese 2.28.1-2.10.1,
    whereas I have rpm-4.4.2.3-37.50.6 installed.
    May be I need to update Cheese to 2.32.0 for Suse 11.4?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikewillis View Post
    In my experience both VMware and VirtualBox will need their kernel modules re-built after any kernel update, not just Service Pack update.
    Do you mean vboxdrv?
    I am not sure, if I can apply relevant commands, as my Virtual box packages now are listed as uninstalled!

    As far as VMWare is concerned, in case I decide to ditch it for the disk space sake, how can I regain the space allocated for it while VMWare is not active?

    Many thanks in advance. Your replies are always substantiative and to the point.

    Lliner

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    Re: Migrating to SLED11-SP2

    Quote Originally Posted by LLiner View Post
    What I also noticed missing rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1, rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1, rpmlib(PayloadIsLzma) <= 4.4.2-1
    required by the installed package Cheese 2.28.1-2.10.1,
    whereas I have rpm-4.4.2.3-37.50.6 installed.
    May be I need to update Cheese to 2.32.0 for Suse 11.4?
    I suspect attempting to update Cheese to to 2.32 will just create more problems. If you run
    Code:
    $ zypper verify
    that will check that all package dependencies are met and if they're not it will attempt to fix them. You could try using v4l1compat with Cheese. Check if the file
    /usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so exists (if you're using 64bit change /usr/lib to /usr/lib64) and if it doesn't install the libv4l package. You can then try running cheese like this
    Code:
    $ LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so cheese
    Quote Originally Posted by LLiner View Post
    Do you mean vboxdrv?
    Possibly, I don't have a machine with VirtualBox installed on to check.
    Quote Originally Posted by LLiner View Post
    I am not sure, if I can apply relevant commands, as my Virtual box packages now are listed as uninstalled!
    I'm not sure what you mean by that. Where are they listed as being uninstalled?

    Quote Originally Posted by LLiner View Post
    As far as VMWare is concerned, in case I decide to ditch it for the disk space sake, how can I regain the space allocated for it while VMWare is not active?
    Well if you just uninstall it then you'll get the disk space back that's used by the actual program. I expect uninstalling it probably leaves behind any Virtual Machines you've created though. Assuming you won't want to use them in future or you have a backup copy you could simply delete them. I don't know where they are, probably depends on which VMWare product you're using (Server, Workstation, Other) I use VMWare workstation and can't remember what the default location is as I don't use it. If you run
    Code:
    $ find / -name "*.vmx"
    that should find them.

  9. #9

    Re: Migrating to SLED11-SP2

    Thank you, Mike,

    I did verification, with one Problem remaining: encode2mpeg-0.6.4-0.pm.1.1.noarch requires transcode. Unfortunately, I could not find satisfactory package transcode in packman or http://http://software.opensuse.org/package so far.

    The file /usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so exists (I have 32bit).
    Unfortunately, neither
    Code:
    $ LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so cheese
    , nor
    Code:
    $ LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so cheese
    work for my cheese.

    The fact remains that during updating to SLED11-SP2 (maybe in the following verification) all packages with virtualbox were deleted (YaST Software Manager History says so), so I need to reinstall them.

    Lliner

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    Re: Migrating to SLED11-SP2

    Just to add more info:
    Quote Originally Posted by LLiner View Post
    ...during updating to SLED11-SP2 (maybe in the following verification) all packages with virtualbox were deleted.
    -because the verifier requested downgrading the newly installed kernel 3.0.34 to the previous one, 2.6.32.54. And I opted to uninstall virtualbox for the sake of updating to SP2 first. Now, when I try to install Virtualbox 4.1.2 again, YaST Program Manager proposes to downgrade kernel to 2.6.32.54

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