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Thread: Re: SLED 11 SP2. When and what?

  1. #1
    katanacb NNTP User

    Re: SLED 11 SP2. When and what?


    svalx;2134423 Wrote:
    > SLE11 SP2 will be available at December 2011/January 2012.


    Is there anywhere that lists what's going to be included in SP2?

    Specifically, I'm interested in better SSD support. SLES/SLED is the
    only enteprise release that currently doesn't support kernel-based TRIM
    (and also doesn't offer ext4 as an installable default) .. and I'm a bit
    uncomfortable running wiper.sh given the warnings it throws out about
    silently destrying data,etc.


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    swad NNTP User

    Re: SLED 11 SP2. When and what?


    Would love to see Google Chrome 13 support, since the Chrome team has
    mentioned that they already set the bar too high on dependancies and
    will not be re-releasing Chrome 12 so I can run it in SLED11 SP1.


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    mikewillis NNTP User

    Re: SLED 11 SP2. When and what?


    swad;2135669 Wrote:
    > Would love to see Google Chrome 13 support


    I doubt Google Chrome is a consideration given that it's not included
    in SLED. Also at the pace Google increase the major version number
    they'll be on 15 or 16 by the time SP2 arrives. If various libraries get
    updated as they did between SLED 11 and SLED 11 SP1 it's seems
    reasonable to be optimistic that Google Chrome will work on SLED 11 SP2
    though.

    If you want Google Chrome now it might be possible to build the
    relevant missing dependencies and run Chrome via a wrapper that sets
    LD_LIBRARY_PATH to reference them. I did this once years ago to get
    Firefox 3 working on SLED 10. It was... interesting...


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    bobpaul NNTP User

    Re: SLED 11 SP2. When and what?


    mikewillis;2135867 Wrote:
    > I doubt Google Chrome is a consideration given that it's not included in
    > SLED. Also at the pace Google increase the major version number they'll
    > be on 15 or 16 by the time SP2 arrives.


    And Firefox will be at version 9 by January 2012. Both of these
    browsers are going a little nuts with the updates. It'll be interesting
    to see how SUSE handles this moving forward. Perhaps dedicated browser
    repos like we have for ATI/nVidia? Considering Google's only going to be
    'supporting the last current and last major revision '
    (http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com...owsers.html)of
    every browser, having an up to date browser is going to be important for
    any customers subscribing to Google Apps.

    mikewillis;2135867 Wrote:
    > If you want Google Chrome now it might be possible to build the relevant
    > missing dependencies and run Chrome via a wrapper that sets
    > LD_LIBRARY_PATH to reference them. I did this once years ago to get
    > Firefox 3 working on SLED 10. It was... interesting...


    That's not a bad idea. I wonder if pre-built libraries could be nicked
    from the OpenSUSE packages and loaded in this method.


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    mikewillis NNTP User

    Re: SLED 11 SP2. When and what?


    bobpaul;2137834 Wrote:
    > And Firefox will be at version 9 by January 2012. Both of these browsers
    > are going a little nuts with the updates. It'll be interesting to see
    > how SUSE handles this moving forward. Perhaps dedicated browser repos
    > like we have for ATI/nVidia?


    So long as library dependencies don't change to versions higher than
    what are in SLED I don't see why it would be a problem, at least not
    from a technical perspective. Novell/SUSE have always had to package up
    newer versions of Firefox as and when Mozilla release them. Even if the
    library dependencies do change it's not insurmountable. Novell did end
    up updating Firefox in SLED 10 to version 3 despite it requiring a newer
    version of GTK than was included in SLED 10. They solved the problem by
    producing an additional package that provided the required version of
    GTK without interfering with the version already in SLED 10.

    Whether people who use SLED consider the rapidly escalating Firefox
    major version number to be a problem is another matter. All the
    complaints I can recall seeing about the new release schedule are about
    the rapid incrementing of major version number when the actual changes
    are quite minor. If you're an administrator concerned about
    compatibility with some system or enforcing default or mandatory
    settings, traditionally you can pretty much ignore minor version number
    changes in terms of testing. When a new major version number comes along
    once a year or so, you know this indicates significant changes and you
    need to take a good look at it. When the major version number is being
    incremented every time someone at Mozilla sneezes you lose that
    indication of how significant the changes in the latest version actually
    are. There's also the issue of at what point the version numbers start
    to look silly. "What version of Firefox are you using?" "43" "OK, well
    that's six weeks old now, you need to update to version 44".


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