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    mikewillis NNTP User

    Re: SLED 11 SP2. When and what?


    According to something called the SUSE Geeko Gazette Newsletter which
    appeared in my inbox today, we're getting btrfs support in SP2. So that
    sounds nice.

    I hate the periodic fsck that happens during boot (not just a SUSE
    thing) and that I can't seem to disable entirely so was planing to move
    to ext4 next time I can tell everyone they need to have their machines
    re-installed as apparently fsck checks happen much, much quicker with
    ext4. But since even the people who made ext4 apparently consider btrfs
    to be 'the future', looks like I can skip ext4 and go straight to btrfs.


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    malcolmlewis NNTP User

    Re: SLED 11 SP2. When and what?

    On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:26:02 GMT
    mikewillis <mikewillis@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:

    >
    > According to something called the SUSE Geeko Gazette Newsletter which
    > appeared in my inbox today, we're getting btrfs support in SP2. So
    > that sounds nice.
    >
    > I hate the periodic fsck that happens during boot (not just a SUSE
    > thing) and that I can't seem to disable entirely so was planing to
    > move to ext4 next time I can tell everyone they need to have their
    > machines re-installed as apparently fsck checks happen much, much
    > quicker with ext4. But since even the people who made ext4 apparently
    > consider btrfs to be 'the future', looks like I can skip ext4 and go
    > straight to btrfs.
    >
    >

    Hi
    You can change how often it checks or disable (not recommended) in
    fstab? Have a look at tun2fs

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  3. #3
    mikewillis NNTP User

    Re: SLED 11 SP2. When and what?


    malcolmlewis;2145924 Wrote:
    >
    > You can change how often it checks or disable (not recommended) in
    > fstab? Have a look at tun2fs
    >


    Yeah I've looked at that. Maybe I have disabled it now. Hard to be sure
    though. I thought I'd disabled it once before but it turned out the
    check was done every six months rather than ever X boots. Of course it
    took me about six months to discover that

    I know it's not recommended to disable the fsck. Given the very low
    number of times I've seen a machine have a problem which fsck wants to
    fix, the number of such incidents where it turned out there was a
    hardware issue and the time the checks take, I'm in the camp of people
    who consider the checks an annoyance. (I have no problem with the
    concept of periodic fsck on boot but it needs to take more like five
    seconds not five minutes.) Though I don't find it enough of an annoyance
    that I can be bothered making any more effort with regards disabling it.



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    vestjens NNTP User

    Re: SLED 11 SP2. When and what?


    mikewillis;2145921 Wrote:
    > According to something called the SUSE Geeko Gazette Newsletter which
    > appeared in my inbox today, we're getting btrfs support in SP2. So that
    > sounds nice.
    >
    > I hate the periodic fsck that happens during boot (not just a SUSE
    > thing) and that I can't seem to disable entirely so was planing to move
    > to ext4 next time I can tell everyone they need to have their machines
    > re-installed as apparently fsck checks happen much, much quicker with
    > ext4. But since even the people who made ext4 apparently consider btrfs
    > to be 'the future', looks like I can skip ext4 and go straight to btrfs.


    When? I doubt it will be long before SP2 arrives, it looks like Novell
    is preparing its website:
    'Release Notes for SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 Service Pack2'
    (http://www.novell.com/linux/releasen...E-SLED/11-SP2/)

    And I guess that answers the "what".

    RV


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    mikewillis NNTP User

    Re: SLED 11 SP2. When and what?


    vestjens;2156497 Wrote:
    > When? I doubt it will be long before SP2 arrives, it looks like Novell
    > is preparing its website:
    > 'Release Notes for SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 Service Pack2'
    > (http://www.novell.com/linux/releasen...E-SLED/11-SP2/)
    >
    > And I guess that answers the "what".
    >

    Did you find these release notes linked from somewhere or just by
    changing a 1 to a 2 in the url?

    It looks to me like they're still being written. If you look at the
    Miscellaneous section some of the text looks like place holders. Section
    2.2 for example about btrfs. As mentioned earlier in this thread
    Novell/SUSE have stated that there will btrfs support in SP2, but these
    release notes just contain little more than an url to something that
    gives me a 403 Forbidden error.

    The New Features section is be identical except the word Novell has
    been replaced with the word SUSE. This:
    > 3.3. Desktop
    >
    > GNOME 2.28
    >
    > GNOME was updated to the latest version and uses PulseAudio for
    > sound.

    That's correct in the context of SP1 because SLED 11 was released with
    GNOME 2.24 which was updated to 2.28 in SP1. In the context of SP2 it's
    nonsense. If SP2 has GNOME 2.28 it hasn't been updated, let alone to the
    latest version. If in SP2, GNOME has been updated to the latest version
    that would be mad because the latest version is 3.2 and GNOME 3 is too
    radically different to GNOME 2 for such a change to be in an SP release.
    Based upon what happened between SLED 11 and SP1, I expect and hope to
    see GNOME 2.32 in SP2.

    It's certainly interesting, exciting even, to know that there is now
    something at the url one would expect to find SP2 release notes at
    though.


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    vestjens NNTP User

    Re: SLED 11 SP2. When and what?


    I guess you're right. Some of the versions mentioned don't make sense
    (yet).
    Googling and browsing I somehow reached the SLES 11 SP2 release notes.
    After that I tried the same for SLED11 SP2 release notes, bad luck
    nothing but SP1.
    Then I indeed changed the 1 to a 2 and found out there was something on
    its way.
    RV

    mikewillis;2156503 Wrote:
    > Did you find these release notes linked from somewhere or just by
    > changing a 1 to a 2 in the url?
    >
    > It looks to me like they're still being written. If you look at the
    > Miscellaneous section some of the text looks like place holders. Section
    > 2.2 for example about btrfs. As mentioned earlier in this thread
    > Novell/SUSE have stated that there will btrfs support in SP2, but these
    > release notes just contain little more than an url to something that
    > gives me a 403 Forbidden error.
    >
    > The New Features section is be identical except the word Novell has
    > been replaced with the word SUSE. This:
    >
    > That's correct in the context of SP1 because SLED 11 was released with
    > GNOME 2.24 which was updated to 2.28 in SP1. In the context of SP2 it's
    > nonsense. If SP2 has GNOME 2.28 it hasn't been updated, let alone to the
    > latest version. If in SP2, GNOME has been updated to the latest version
    > that would be mad because the latest version is 3.2 and GNOME 3 is too
    > radically different to GNOME 2 for such a change to be in an SP release.
    > Based upon what happened between SLED 11 and SP1, I expect and hope to
    > see GNOME 2.32 in SP2.
    >
    > It's certainly interesting, exciting even, to know that there is now
    > something at the url one would expect to find SP2 release notes at
    > though.



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