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  1. #1
    dvhenry NNTP User

    Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?


    I have so far had no success with LXDE, I've done ok with KDE and gnome.
    I have tried instructions 'here' (http://tinyurl.com/d9euvhh), and just
    about every thing else I can think of, I want a light DE or WM that
    people find easy to use, it does not need to be LXDE.
    I'm attempting to use SUSE Studio to create yet another recovery disk
    for my own use and that of friends, (I know, there are already plenty to
    choose from, but I would just like to do it).
    If anyone has advice I'm happy to give it a go.


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    caf4926 NNTP User

    Re: Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?


    Not sure I quite understand what you want us to say....

    As you seem to have already tried LXDE and clearly found something not
    to your liking? What exactly was it that meant you 'had no success'?

    It doesn't work for me either, well, it works but the main issue I have
    is I would only want to use it on a machine with limitations... such as
    my eeepc, which would be fine, except that LXDE suspend and resume
    creates a blank space to the panel each time you suspend and resume. As
    I leave my machine in this state most of the time, probably go back and
    forth to it 20+ times a day, the result is very messy... (All distros
    LXDE behave the same) So I have Mint Mate on my eeepc and it's even
    better IMO. Just telling it how it is.
    But there are plans for a openSUSE Mate install .iso I think. (Though I
    don't like the 2 Panel layout they went with or the Menu)

    You could look at Razor-qt
    IMO, this should become a install Pattern for the DVD


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  3. #3
    dvhenry NNTP User

    Re: Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?


    > What exactly was it that meant you 'had no success'?

    Your right, I was not clear, I meant I had no success installing LXDE
    as the DE in the SUSE Studio 'distro' I am attempting to create.
    For a recovery disk I believe LXDE would work well, and I have seen it
    do so.
    > You could look at Razor-qt

    Happy to give it a go, I hadn't heard of it until recently.


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    caf4926 NNTP User

    Re: Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?


    So it's a little clearer now.
    Actually installing LXDE from the standard DVD is not a problem of
    course.
    You issue is with your own creation of a LXDE based media in SUSE
    Studio? Which isn't something I work with much. Lets see if you get some
    more educated responses :-)


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    dvhenry NNTP User

    Re: Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?


    caf4926;2510956 Wrote:
    > So it's a little clearer now.
    > Actually installing LXDE from the standard DVD is not a problem of
    > course.
    > You issue is with your own creation of a LXDE based media in SUSE
    > Studio? Which isn't something I work with much. Lets see if you get some
    > more educated responses :-)

    Yep, I'm having difficulties installing any lite DE or WM with SUSE
    Studio that I have tried so far, I expect I am making the same mistakes
    continuously.
    Perhaps there are some docs that I have neglected to put the needed
    effort into finding?

    thanks for your replies on this to this point.


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  6. #6
    dvhenry NNTP User

    Re: Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?


    It appears to be a permissions issue, I am unsure how to edit the files
    in SUSE Studio.
    An example of the error message follows (NOTE, this is copied with pen
    to paper, so expect some errors).

    Code:
    --------------------
    tux@linux-bash"> startx
    hostname: Name or Server not known
    xauth: file/home/tux.serverauth.8743 does not exist

    Fatal server error:
    Cannot open log file "/var/log/Xorg.1.log"
    Please consult the X.org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org

    xinit: giving up
    xinit: unable to connect to X server Connection refused
    xinit: server error
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    xinit failed. /usr/bin/Xorg is not setuid, maybe thats the reason?
    If so either use a display manager (strongly recommended) or adjust /etc/ permitions.local
    --------------------


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  7. Re: Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?

    On Sat 15 Dec 2012 11:56:02 AM CST, dvhenry wrote:


    caf4926;2510956 Wrote:
    > So it's a little clearer now.
    > Actually installing LXDE from the standard DVD is not a problem of
    > course.
    > You issue is with your own creation of a LXDE based media in SUSE
    > Studio? Which isn't something I work with much. Lets see if you get
    > some more educated responses :-)

    Yep, I'm having difficulties installing any lite DE or WM with SUSE
    Studio that I have tried so far, I expect I am making the same mistakes
    continuously.
    Perhaps there are some docs that I have neglected to put the needed
    effort into finding?

    thanks for your replies on this to this point.


    Hi
    So what overlay files have you included, modified the displaymanager
    and windowmanager files?

    For an example here is my bloackbox overlay;
    http://paste.opensuse.org/89773976

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    dvhenry NNTP User

    Re: Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?


    > Hi
    > So what overlay files have you included, modified the displaymanager
    > and windowmanager files?
    >
    > For an example here is my bloackbox overlay;
    > 'SUSE Paste' (http://paste.opensuse.org/89773976)


    I have run many builds.
    I have not concentrated on modifying the displaymanager and
    windowmanager files, should I?


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  9. Re: Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?

    On Sat 15 Dec 2012 02:16:02 PM CST, dvhenry wrote:


    > Hi
    > So what overlay files have you included, modified the displaymanager
    > and windowmanager files?
    >
    > For an example here is my bloackbox overlay;
    > 'SUSE Paste' (http://paste.opensuse.org/89773976)


    I have run many builds.
    I have not concentrated on modifying the displaymanager and
    windowmanager files, should I?


    Hi
    Well AFAIK you would need to modify them to start your window manager
    eg startlxde or what ever is required. The displaymanager I changed for
    the username to autologin and login manager to use (lxdm).

    BTW, startx doesn't work anymore, unless as indicated you change the
    permissions. Again those changed files need to be added to the overlay
    file list, correct permissions etc.

    Do you need a GUI for a rescue type system, esp if the problem is gpu
    related? I use a console based one (called twin) and gpm for the mouse.

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    dvhenry NNTP User

    Re: Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?


    I'm happy to concentrate on one attempt, which would give a better
    indication of what I'm doing wrong.
    Any suggestions on how I should go about that attempt?


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  11. Re: Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?

    On Sat 15 Dec 2012 02:36:02 PM CST, dvhenry wrote:


    I'm happy to concentrate on one attempt, which would give a better
    indication of what I'm doing wrong.
    Any suggestions on how I should go about that attempt?


    Hi
    Configuring windowmanager and displaymanager with the correct settings
    so it will autologin and start the WM in testdrive. Then can work on
    getting startx from the command line.

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  12. #12
    dvhenry NNTP User

    Re: Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?


    > Hi
    > Well AFAIK you would need to modify them to start your window manager
    > eg startlxde or what ever is required. The displaymanager I changed for
    > the username to autologin and login manager to use (lxdm).


    That gives me a better idea of what Ineed to do.

    > BTW, startx doesn't work anymore, unless as indicated you change the
    > permissions. Again those changed files need to be added to the overlay
    > file list, correct permissions etc.


    I was not aware of that, more useful info!

    > Do you need a GUI for a rescue type system, esp if the problem is gpu
    > related? I use a console based one (called twin) and gpm for the mouse.


    No actual need for it, but I would like to be able to run gparted, for
    example, there are alternatives,
    but I would like to take advantage of the ease of use, particularly for
    those friends of mine who
    don't understand the CLI.

    There is no need for another rescue disk, I just would like to make one
    with SUSE Studio.


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    dvhenry NNTP User

    Re: Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?


    > Hi
    > Configuring windowmanager and displaymanager with the correct settings
    > so it will autologin and start the WM in testdrive. Then can work on
    > getting startx from the command line.


    Thanks, that is now my plan.


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  14. #14
    dvhenry NNTP User

    Re: Any advice on installing LXDE as the main DE ?


    An update,
    Well, I have still had no success with LXDE, (even when using a KDE or
    GNOME template and adding LXDE, LXDE is not added to the DM list).
    I t does not need to be LXDE however, so I've gone with IceWM, which
    will still do what I want.
    I have some other issues however and when I have sorted out the details
    to post will start a new post (or 2 !).


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