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    snewett NNTP User

    CNE to NCE


    Just wondering how many CNE's have decided to become NCE's via 3089\3090
    and if they had limited linux knowledge beforehand, how did they fare
    with the learning curve?


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    JimT NNTP User

    Re: CNE to NCE

    I fondly remembering getting my first CNE cert in 1991

    CNE 3
    Then CNE 4
    and CNE 5
    Then CNE 6

    I got my first MCSE around 1996...

    I worked harder for the CNE's but got rewarded for the

    MCSE more as Netware faded...

    I'm sure I'm not alone remembering the halcyon years of

    Netware. Set up a Arcnet network with Netware 3.12

    and Wordperfect. Then use nmenu to give the users a

    simple text menu... ****... I'm old!

    It was rock-solid dependable.

    Anyone remember compsurf on the old MFM drives?

    Or ESDI or RLL or... geez I'm old....


    JT






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    > Just wondering how many CNE's have decided to become NCE's via 3089\3090
    > and if they had limited linux knowledge beforehand, how did they fare
    > with the learning curve?
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    jamesgosling NNTP User

    Re: CNE to NCE


    I'm far too young to remember such things (I wish!)

    I remember when things like terminal based accounts systems were
    replaced by windows versions and productivity dropped through the floor!
    I mean honestly through the floor!


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  4. #4
    Bob Crandell NNTP User

    Re: CNE to NCE

    On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:46:01 +0000, jamesgosling wrote:

    > I'm far too young to remember such things (I wish!)
    >
    > I remember when things like terminal based accounts systems were
    > replaced by windows versions and productivity dropped through the floor!
    > I mean honestly through the floor!


    +1

  5. #5
    Dave Howe NNTP User

    Re: CNE to NCE

    On 08/01/2012 01:03, JimT wrote:
    > I fondly remembering getting my first CNE cert in 1991
    >
    > CNE 3
    > Then CNE 4
    > and CNE 5
    > Then CNE 6


    I only got as far as CNE 5 - got the CLE when that came out (only as far
    as 10, never got to take CLE 11) But there is no graceful upgrade path
    from CLE to any of the OES linux certs, and sadly my company is taking a
    different path now anyhow.

    > I got my first MCSE around 1996...
    > I worked harder for the CNE's but got rewarded for the
    > MCSE more as Netware faded...
    >
    > I'm sure I'm not alone remembering the halcyon years of
    > Netware. Set up a Arcnet network with Netware 3.12
    > and Wordperfect. Then use nmenu to give the users a
    > simple text menu... ****... I'm old!


    I can recall most of that, and LAN Workplace for DOS to give access to
    the world of tcp/ip (netware client was still ipx); using that for
    dialup access to the internet (and the DOS version of the GW4 GWIA to
    sync with) to provide internet mail on a duty cycle of just a few
    minutes per day (UK had no free local calls, so dialup charges were
    per-minute)

    But yeah, for long term career prospects I should have gone down the MS
    path; if I had it to do over, I probably would, although I have had a
    good run with my mixed routing&switching/netware/unix skillset. Linux
    never took off the way I expected it to - while almost all the kit I
    deal with now has linux "under" it somewhere (most surprising to me
    being cisco's ASA devices), little of it is used other than via a pretty
    gui (which has its own vendor training path)

    Never had arcnet, but had madge 16mbit token ring kit for a long while,
    with a few bits of legacy ring kit at 4mbit (and manual relay reset via
    a special battery-powered tool

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    NNTP User

    Re: CNE to NCE

    On 1/7/2012 7:03 PM, JimT wrote:
    > I fondly remembering getting my first CNE cert in 1991
    >
    > CNE 3
    > Then CNE 4
    > and CNE 5
    > Then CNE 6
    >
    > I got my first MCSE around 1996...
    >
    > I worked harder for the CNE's but got rewarded for the
    >
    > MCSE more as Netware faded...
    >
    > I'm sure I'm not alone remembering the halcyon years of
    >
    > Netware. Set up a Arcnet network with Netware 3.12
    >
    > and Wordperfect. Then use nmenu to give the users a
    >
    > simple text menu... ****... I'm old!
    >
    > It was rock-solid dependable.
    >
    > Anyone remember compsurf on the old MFM drives?
    >
    > Or ESDI or RLL or... geez I'm old....
    >
    >


    two phunnie! Your career track parallels my exactly.

    compsurf on on esdi disks in ps/2's

    Anyone remember installing netware on Tricord servers?

    Ted Novak
    TRA#5512

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    snewett NNTP User

    Re: CNE to NCE


    ;2166612 Wrote:
    > On 1/7/2012 7:03 PM, JimT wrote:
    > > I fondly remembering getting my first CNE cert in 1991
    > >
    > > CNE 3
    > > Then CNE 4
    > > and CNE 5
    > > Then CNE 6
    > >
    > > I got my first MCSE around 1996...
    > >
    > > I worked harder for the CNE's but got rewarded for the
    > >
    > > MCSE more as Netware faded...
    > >
    > > I'm sure I'm not alone remembering the halcyon years of
    > >
    > > Netware. Set up a Arcnet network with Netware 3.12
    > >
    > > and Wordperfect. Then use nmenu to give the users a
    > >
    > > simple text menu... ****... I'm old!
    > >
    > > It was rock-solid dependable.
    > >
    > > Anyone remember compsurf on the old MFM drives?
    > >
    > > Or ESDI or RLL or... geez I'm old....
    > >
    > >

    >
    > two phunnie! Your career track parallels my exactly.
    >
    > compsurf on on esdi disks in ps/2's
    >
    > Anyone remember installing netware on Tricord servers?
    >
    > Ted Novak
    > TRA#5512


    Go back to 2.15 (netgen, shgen) and am a legacy 3.x cne which was
    2.2\3.11 exams. What is a Tricord server and yes, I am stopping myself
    from googling......


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  8. #8
    snewett NNTP User

    Re: CNE to NCE


    snewett;2166681 Wrote:
    > Go back to 2.15 (netgen, shgen) and am a legacy 3.x cne which was
    > 2.2\3.11 exams. What is a Tricord server and yes, I am stopping myself
    > from googling......


    sorry, couldn't help myself....this Tricord looks impressive!

    'Tricord: A Mainframe'
    (http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/...little-sibling)


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  9. #9
    JimT NNTP User

    Re: CNE to NCE

    Netware 2.15 rev c.... I think....

    I remember installing on Compaq Deskpro 286..

    and getting to disk # whatever and getting "disk read

    error" abort, retry, fail? WTF? after all that...

    I try to relate floppys to my son but the age of 16GB

    flash drives kinda looses something in translation..

    You put 18 floppys into a what? where? and it took how

    long? Man I feel old!

    JT



    "snewett" <snewett@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > snewett;2166681 Wrote:
    >> Go back to 2.15 (netgen, shgen) and am a legacy 3.x cne which was
    >> 2.2\3.11 exams. What is a Tricord server and yes, I am stopping myself
    >> from googling......

    >
    > sorry, couldn't help myself....this Tricord looks impressive!
    >
    > 'Tricord: A Mainframe'
    > (http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/...little-sibling)
    >
    >
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  10. #10
    Joseph Marton NNTP User

    Re: CNE to NCE

    JimT wrote:

    > I try to relate floppys to my son but the age of 16GB
    >
    > flash drives kinda looses something in translation..
    >
    > You put 18 floppys into a what? where? and it took how
    >
    > long?


    Hmm... you sure this isn't a "birds and the bees" discussion?

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