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Thread: SLED 11 SP3 vs SLED 12

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    SLED 11 SP3 vs SLED 12

    I'm about to install SLED, again, after having a HORRIFIC experience with openSUSE 13.2... and I mean, absolutely HORRIFIC: I've worked with Linux, personally and professionally, 6 months after it was released in the wild up until today; there were a few couple year gaps here and there, to be sure, but I'm not new to the installation process. openSUSE 13.2 had me stumped and I never once got it working. </rant>

    What I am wondering: Is SLED 12 a marked improvement over SLED 11 SP3? I'm not a fanatic for GNOME 3.x and was hoping SLED 12 would go a different route; however, since it did not, I'm trying to decide if I will stick with SLED 11 SP3 or SLED 12.

    Can anybody please share their thoughts with SLED 12, as compared to 11 SP3? I would certainly love to hear about what applications that are or are not available for 12.

  2. Re: SLED 11 SP3 vs SLED 12

    On Fri 10 Apr 2015 03:24:01 AM CDT, susecmail wrote:


    I'm about to install SLED, again, after having a HORRIFIC experience
    with openSUSE 13.2... and I mean, absolutely HORRIFIC: I've worked with
    Linux, personally and professionally, 6 months after it was released in
    the wild up until today; there were a few couple year gaps here and
    there, to be sure, but I'm not new to the installation process.
    openSUSE 13.2 had me stumped and I never once got it working. </rant>

    What I am wondering: Is SLED 12 a marked improvement over SLED 11 SP3?
    I'm not a fanatic for GNOME 3.x and was hoping SLED 12 would go a
    different route; however, since it did not, I'm trying to decide if I
    will stick with SLED 11 SP3 or SLED 12.

    Can anybody please share their thoughts with SLED 12, as compared to 11
    SP3? I would certainly love to hear about what applications that are or
    are not available for 12.


    Hi
    I use both... but do prefer GNOME shell these days. What is your
    hardware and GPU?

    I'm running arduino (the tarball version in ~/ just had to
    add my user to dialout group for access to /dev/ttyUSBn

    I use the fluendo codecs for multimedia as well as a few of my own
    packages on OBS.

    What specific packages are you wanting to run?

    --
    Cheers Malcolm °¿° LFCS, SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890)
    SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 GNOME 3.10.1 Kernel 3.12.39-47-default
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    Re: SLED 11 SP3 vs SLED 12

    Hello again

    Here are some of my standard/desired apps:

    1. mp3 & restricted codec support, as well as mplayer with ability to play all the familiar codecs, etc
    2. Gummi (for LaTeX editing, creation & processing)
    3. Arduino - a hobby, I can do without if need be, but not really...
    4. PCB & Fritzing - another hobby
    5. Ninja-IDE - a wonderful Python IDE of which I've grown fond over the years
    6. SpiderOak - I was using Dropbox, but I like security, so opted for this a couple months ago
    7. gtkpod - I do not own a Windows or Mac system and have a 2nd Gen iPod Nano
    8. fglrx - AMD's propietary driver, which keeps the system a lot cooler, even though the fans are not constantly running, like they do under radeon or other open drivers
    9. wine - I have one game I play that runs well in wine (Fantasy Grounds), so wine is a must; and
    10. gpg.



    Other than that, I can get by using LibreOffice instead of Calligra Suite (for some reason, I really like that) and Claws email other than Thunderbird; this can go for all the other programs

    As for the system, I HIGHLY prefer full-disk encryption in an LVM.

    My system specs, Gigabyte Brix:

    • CPU: Quadcore AMD Richland A8-5545M 1.7G/ 2.7GHz(Turbo)
    • GPU: Radeon HD 8510G
    • Hard drive: Crucial M550 512GB SSD mSATA
    • Memory: 16GB (2 x 8GB) G.SKILL Ripjaw 204-pin DDR3 So-DIMM
    • LAN Ethernet: Realtek RTL8111G
    • Keyboard: Typematrix Dvorak/QWERTY compact keyboard
    • Monitor: Asus VS247 24" LED



    Thank you!
    Last edited by susecmail; 10-Apr-2015 at 09:20. Reason: Fixed unordered & ordered list; 2nd edit: Added 'SSD' to 'Hard drive' section

  4. Re: SLED 11 SP3 vs SLED 12

    On Fri 10 Apr 2015 08:24:01 AM CDT, susecmail wrote:


    Hello again

    Here are some of my standard/desired apps:


    - mp3 & restricted codec support, as well as mplayer with ability to
    play all the familiar codecs, etc
    - Gummi (for LaTeX editing, creation & processing)
    - Arduino - a hobby, I can do without if need be, but not really...
    - PCB & Fritzing - another hobby
    - Ninja-IDE - a wonderful Python IDE of which I've grown fond over the
    years
    - SpiderOak - I was using Dropbox, but I like security, so opted for
    this a couple months ago
    - gtkpod - I do not own a Windows or Mac system and have a 2nd Gen
    iPod Nano
    - fglrx - AMD's propietary driver, which keeps the system a lot
    cooler, even though the fans are not constantly running, like they do
    under radeon or other open drivers
    - wine - I have one game I play that runs well in wine (Fantasy
    Grounds), so wine is a must; and
    - gpg.
    -



    Other than that, I can get by using LibreOffice instead of Calligra
    Suite (for some reason, I really like that) and Claws email other than
    Thunderbird; this can go for all the other programs

    As for the system, I HIGHLY prefer full-disk encryption in an LVM.

    My system specs, Gigabyte Brix:


    - *CPU*: Quadcore AMD Richland A8-5545M 1.7G/ 2.7GHz(Turbo)
    - *GPU*: Radeon HD 8510G
    - *Hard drive*: Crucial M550 512GB SSD mSATA
    - *Memory*: 16GB (2 x 8GB) G.SKILL Ripjaw 204-pin DDR3 So-DIMM
    - *LAN Ethernet*: Realtek RTL8111G
    - *Keyboard*: Typematrix Dvorak/QWERTY compact keyboard
    - *Monitor*: Asus VS247 24" LED



    Thank you!


    Hi
    Fellow KP Mike Willis has a howto on the multimedia side if your
    looking at mplayer. As indicated I use fluendo, but use handbrake for
    conversion from packman...

    Gummi is in the 'Publishing' repository on OBS
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...ishing/SLE_12/

    For Arduino I use the tarball version and have a script to start and a
    desktop file;
    Code:
    cat bin/arduino
    
    #!/bin/sh
    cd /data/makeblock/arduino && exec ./arduino $*
    
    cat Desktop/Arduino.desktop
    
    [Desktop Entry]
    Name=Arduino
    Comment=Arduino integration environment tool
    Version=1.0
    Icon=/home/malcolml/.icons/Arduino_Logo.svg
    Exec=/data/makeblock/arduino-1.6.2/arduino
    Type=Application
    Terminal=false
    Encoding=UTF-8
    Categories=Development;IDE;
    Ninja IDE is in the 'devel:languagesython' repo;
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...python/SLE_12/

    gtkpod if you add the SLE 12 SDK and grab the src rpm from GNOME:Apps
    repo on OBS and rebuild locally.

    For fglrx (needed for the APU and boost support) I use the 'rpm' method
    from here, it will also rebuild automatically on kernel update;
    https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:AMD_fglrx

    Use cpupower command to check boost state;
    Code:
    cpupower frequency-info
    .....
    .....
    boost state support:
    Supported: yes
    Active: yes
    
    cpupower monitor -m Mperf | sed -n '/[3..4]/p' | awk '{print $4}'
    In normal use with the 'An' cpu's you won't see the boost states kick
    in via normal tools, only above will show it...

    For wine, I recommend crossover, since it's 32bit and SLE 12 doesn't
    ship with 32bit devel packages... a lot of work!

    I don't use LVM/encryption, so others may have some tips.

    You could wind down swappiness and cache since you have lots of ram
    in /etc/sysctl.conf;
    Code:
    vm.swappiness=1
    vm.vfs_cache_pressure=50
    I use elevator=noop for the scheduler as well as btrfs/xfs.

    Wind down the snapper config in /etc/snapper/configs/root if your using
    btrfs...

    --
    Cheers Malcolm °¿° LFCS, SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890)
    SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 GNOME 3.10.1 Kernel 3.12.39-47-default
    If you find this post helpful and are logged into the web interface,
    please show your appreciation and click on the star below... Thanks!


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    Re: SLED 11 SP3 vs SLED 12

    I know it's been a few months, but thank you! I'm trying to find the download for SUSE 12 right now; I think I DL'd it at some point, but I cannot find the ISO on my hard drive(s).

    Once I get it up & running, this will come in super handy

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