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  1. #1
    iani2004 NNTP User

    Moving SLED 11 SP1 from primary to extended partition


    Hello.

    My ProBook 4530s has one 500GB hard disk with 4 primary partitions:
    root (Ext3-20GB), recovery (Ext2-3GB), HP_Tools (FAT32 LBA-2GB) and
    extended with swap (6GB) and home (Ext3).
    I want to move SLED from the first primary partition to a logical
    partition so I can change sda1(Ext3) to NTFS and install Win7,
    dual-booting both OS

    How do I do the moving? If that's possible.

    -I don't have a SLED CD/DVD, the OS installs from recovery partition
    wiping everything in the way.-



    It's not my intention to install Win7 in VM or delete/move the recovery
    or HP_Tools partitions.


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  2. #2
    malcolmlewis NNTP User

    Re: Moving SLED 11 SP1 from primary to extended partition

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:46:01 GMT
    iani2004 <iani2004@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:

    >
    > Hello.
    >
    > My ProBook 4530s has one 500GB hard disk with 4 primary partitions:
    > root (Ext3-20GB), recovery (Ext2-3GB), HP_Tools (FAT32 LBA-2GB) and
    > extended with swap (6GB) and home (Ext3).
    > I want to move SLED from the first primary partition to a logical
    > partition so I can change sda1(Ext3) to NTFS and install Win7,
    > dual-booting both OS
    >
    > How do I do the moving? If that's possible.
    >
    > -I don't have a SLED CD/DVD, the OS installs from recovery partition
    > wiping everything in the way.-
    >
    >
    >
    > It's not my intention to install Win7 in VM or delete/move the
    > recovery or HP_Tools partitions.
    >
    >

    Hi
    Windows 7 needs two (2) primary partitions, a 100MB one and then it's
    primary partition >= 20GB.

    Do you have access to an external drive?

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  3. #3
    ab NNTP User

    Re: Moving SLED 11 SP1 from primary to extended partition

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    windows breaks the boot loader anyway so after you finish installing it
    on the main system you'll be at least going through a recovery to fix
    the boot loader to work again; may just be easier to reinstall the box,
    first with windows leaving space for Linux, and then adding Linux to
    handle booting of both OS's as it will do properly by default.

    Good luck.
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  4. #4
    iani2004 NNTP User

    Re: Moving SLED 11 SP1 from primary to extended partition


    malcolmlewis;2167936 Wrote:
    > On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:46:01 GMT
    > Windows 7 needs two (2) primary partitions, a 100MB one and then it's
    > primary partition >= 20GB.
    >
    > Do you have access to an external drive?
    >



    My old one died (-WD My Book Essential Ed. 500GB-) and I didn't replace
    it, but here's just the right time to do it.
    Any suggestions so I don't buy one that will create more problems?


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  5. #5
    malcolmlewis NNTP User

    Re: Moving SLED 11 SP1 from primary to extended partition

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:06:01 GMT
    iani2004 <iani2004@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:

    >
    > malcolmlewis;2167936 Wrote:
    > > On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:46:01 GMT
    > > Windows 7 needs two (2) primary partitions, a 100MB one and then
    > > it's primary partition >= 20GB.
    > >
    > > Do you have access to an external drive?
    > >

    >
    >
    > My old one died (-WD My Book Essential Ed. 500GB-) and I didn't
    > replace it, but here's just the right time to do it.
    > Any suggestions so I don't buy one that will create more problems?
    >
    >

    Well are you happy removing the drive in the notebook and replacing it?
    Or prefer to do something external?

    Can you post the output from;

    Code:
    fdisk -l
    Also can you check you BIOS settings, are you booting legacy or UEFI?


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  6. #6
    iani2004 NNTP User

    Re: Moving SLED 11 SP1 from primary to extended partition


    > -Well are you happy removing the drive in the notebook and replacing

    it? Or prefer to do something external?-

    Right now I wonder if I can remove and replace the drive. That's my
    first notebook.


    > -Can you post the output from fdisk -l-


    Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
    Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0xf7c4b322

    ...Device.Boot......Start........End......Blocks.. .....Id...System
    /dev/sda1...*.............1........2612....20980858.... 83..Linux
    /dev/sda2............2613........3003......3140705+..83 ..Linux
    /dev/sda3............3004........3258......2048000+...c ...W95.FAT32.(LBA)
    /dev/sda4............3258.......60801..462214428+...f.. ..W95.Ext'd.(LBA)
    /dev/sda5............3258........4007......6011904+..82 ...Linux.swap./.Solaris
    /dev/sda6............4007.......60801..456201944....83. ..Linux


    > -Also can you check you BIOS settings, are you booting legacy or

    UEFI?-

    Legacy Boot Order is in black, while UEFI Boot Order is in gray, and
    checking "enables UEFI boot capability" option gives the warning:
    -The "UEFI Boot Option" on this system is provided for development
    purposes only and is currently NOT fully supported or warranted by HP.-
    So I guess I'm booting legacy.


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  7. #7
    malcolmlewis NNTP User

    Re: Moving SLED 11 SP1 from primary to extended partition

    On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:26:02 GMT
    iani2004 <iani2004@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:

    >
    > > -Well are you happy removing the drive in the notebook and replacing

    > it? Or prefer to do something external?-
    >
    > Right now I wonder if I can remove and replace the drive. That's my
    > first notebook.
    >
    >
    > > -Can you post the output from fdisk -l-

    >
    > Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
    > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
    > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
    > Disk identifier: 0xf7c4b322
    >
    > ..Device.Boot......Start........End......Blocks... ....Id...System
    > /dev/sda1...*.............1........2612....20980858.... 83..Linux
    > /dev/sda2............2613........3003......3140705+..83 ..Linux
    > /dev/sda3............3004........3258......2048000+...c ...W95.FAT32.(LBA)
    > /dev/sda4............3258.......60801..462214428+...f.. ..W95.Ext'd.(LBA)
    > /dev/sda5............3258........4007......6011904+..82 ...Linux.swap./.Solaris
    > /dev/sda6............4007.......60801..456201944....83. ..Linux
    >
    >
    > > -Also can you check you BIOS settings, are you booting legacy or

    > UEFI?-
    >
    > Legacy Boot Order is in black, while UEFI Boot Order is in gray, and
    > checking "enables UEFI boot capability" option gives the warning:
    > -The "UEFI Boot Option" on this system is provided for
    > development purposes only and is currently NOT fully supported or
    > warranted by HP.- So I guess I'm booting legacy.
    >
    >

    Hi
    OK, well that's cool that it's legacy..no worries but pays to check.

    If you turn the system over there should be a panel to remove via a few
    screws, unscrew and securing screws for the HDD, slide out and remove
    the four (4) screws holding the drive into the caddy and insert the new
    drive, boot and install windows.

    You would then need to look at using parted to shrink the
    windows partition, creating an extended partition, creating the
    partitons the same block size as SLED and using dd to copy the data
    back. The biggest bit would be re-creating grub to get the system
    booting.

    Run the command;
    Code:
    /usr/sbin/hwinfo --disk |grep Model
    Should tell you the model, else the BIOS should have the information as
    well. Just make sure you check the drive specifications for power are
    the same as the drive that's in the system.

    I have been looking at the SEGATE hybrid drives which cache common
    information for faster boot etc, but look at the reviews first.

    To be honest, I would follow Aaron's advice you can download the DVD to
    install SLED from Novell, the trick is your HP system has special
    repositories but if you recover the system keys and copy the repository
    list it should re-create fine.

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  8. #8
    malcolmlewis NNTP User

    Re: Moving SLED 11 SP1 from primary to extended partition

    On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 03:12:08 GMT
    malcolmlewis <malcolmlewis@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:

    > On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:26:02 GMT
    > iani2004 <iani2004@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > > -Well are you happy removing the drive in the notebook and
    > > > replacing

    > > it? Or prefer to do something external?-
    > >
    > > Right now I wonder if I can remove and replace the drive. That's my
    > > first notebook.
    > >
    > >
    > > > -Can you post the output from fdisk -l-

    > >
    > > Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
    > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
    > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
    > > Disk identifier: 0xf7c4b322
    > >
    > > ..Device.Boot......Start........End......Blocks... ....Id...System
    > > /dev/sda1...*.............1........2612....20980858.... 83..Linux
    > > /dev/sda2............2613........3003......3140705+..83 ..Linux
    > > /dev/sda3............3004........3258......2048000+...c ...W95.FAT32.(LBA)
    > > /dev/sda4............3258.......60801..462214428+...f.. ..W95.Ext'd.(LBA)
    > > /dev/sda5............3258........4007......6011904+..82 ...Linux.swap./.Solaris
    > > /dev/sda6............4007.......60801..456201944....83. ..Linux
    > >
    > >
    > > > -Also can you check you BIOS settings, are you booting legacy or

    > > UEFI?-
    > >
    > > Legacy Boot Order is in black, while UEFI Boot Order is in gray, and
    > > checking "enables UEFI boot capability" option gives the warning:
    > > -The "UEFI Boot Option" on this system is provided for
    > > development purposes only and is currently NOT fully supported or
    > > warranted by HP.- So I guess I'm booting legacy.
    > >
    > >

    > Hi
    > OK, well that's cool that it's legacy..no worries but pays to check.
    >
    > If you turn the system over there should be a panel to remove via a
    > few screws, unscrew and securing screws for the HDD, slide out and
    > remove the four (4) screws holding the drive into the caddy and
    > insert the new drive, boot and install windows.
    >
    > You would then need to look at using parted to shrink the
    > windows partition, creating an extended partition, creating the
    > partitons the same block size as SLED and using dd to copy the data
    > back. The biggest bit would be re-creating grub to get the system
    > booting.
    >
    > Run the command;
    >
    Code:
    > /usr/sbin/hwinfo --disk |grep Model
    >
    > Should tell you the model, else the BIOS should have the information
    > as well. Just make sure you check the drive specifications for power
    > are the same as the drive that's in the system.
    >
    > I have been looking at the SEGATE hybrid drives which cache common
    > information for faster boot etc, but look at the reviews first.
    >
    > To be honest, I would follow Aaron's advice you can download the DVD
    > to install SLED from Novell, the trick is your HP system has special
    > repositories but if you recover the system keys and copy the
    > repository list it should re-create fine.
    >

    Hi
    Also I'm assuming the caddy device you have takes a 2.5" drive (I
    didn't check) else you would need a 2.5" USB enclosure to contain the
    spare drive....

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  9. #9
    iani2004 NNTP User

    Re: Moving SLED 11 SP1 from primary to extended partition


    I need a little more details about what will happen after installing
    Windows. I can't see those steps.

    The drive inside the notebook is a Toshiba-MK5061GS.

    Why the restoring of Grub is tricky? I was really thinking that it only
    needed a LiveCD, executing grub, root, setup and that's all.

    I have an Win7 OEM CD with s/n. I don't fully understand the
    implications. Since I've mentioned virtual machines, if I would have
    installed it in VirtualBox for example, that won't allow me to installl
    it on another drive and vice-versa, right? I'm trying to sort things out
    in my mind.


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  10. #10
    malcolmlewis NNTP User

    Re: Moving SLED 11 SP1 from primary to extended partition

    On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 05:16:02 GMT
    iani2004 <iani2004@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:

    >
    > I need a little more details about what will happen after installing
    > Windows. I can't see those steps.

    Windows will create two primary partitions one 100MB and the second the
    rest of the drive. I think you can set the size of the partition though.

    >
    > The drive inside the notebook is a Toshiba-MK5061GS.
    >
    > Why the restoring of Grub is tricky? I was really thinking that it
    > only needed a LiveCD, executing grub, root, setup and that's all.
    >

    Correct, but install it in the extended partition and chainload
    windows. The only thing is getting the newer partitions of the same
    block size to dd across for the OS.

    > I have an Win7 OEM CD with s/n. I don't fully understand the
    > implications. Since I've mentioned virtual machines, if I would have
    > installed it in VirtualBox for example, that won't allow me to
    > installl it on another drive and vice-versa, right? I'm trying to
    > sort things out in my mind.
    >
    >

    Hmmm probably won't activate I guess. This DELL Latitude E5510 came
    with windows 7 32 bit. I have it running fine in virtualbox and
    activated (but I never use it.... go figure). I just dual boot between
    openSUSE and SLED 11.

    I guess the question is what are you planning to run if you do a
    physical install, I use MS Office 2003 on occasions and have it
    installed with crossover pro without any issues. I also have Garmin
    mapsource as well for my GPS and that's it for windows software.

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