# About time :-D

**URL:** <https://forums.suse.com/t/about-time-d/22796>\
**Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\
**Created:** [June 28, 2012, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/about-time-d/22796 "2012-06-28T22:46:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![System1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/about-time-d/22796/1 "2012-06-28T22:46:01Z")

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[http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/FiEEwZdEA-o/grub-200-bootloader-officially-released](http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/FiEEwZdEA-o/grub-200-bootloader-officially-released)

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/about-time-d/22796/2 "2012-06-28T23:17:08Z")

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:46:01 GMT  
JayZie [jeromecalderwood@gmail.com](mailto:jeromecalderwood@gmail.com) wrote:  
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> [http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/FiEEwZdEA-o/grub-200-bootloader-officially-released](http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/FiEEwZdEA-o/grub-200-bootloader-officially-released)[/color]  
> As soon as it’s released it’s going to be dropped…lol

Doesn’t work with windows 8 secure boot and UEFI…

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Cheers Malcolm Â°Â¿Â° (Linux Counter #276890)  
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86\_64) Kernel 3.0.34-0.7-default  
up 2 days 1:14, 2 users, load average: 0.40, 0.40, 0.41  
CPU Intel i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | Intel Arrandale GPU

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/about-time-d/22796/3 "2012-06-28T23:19:54Z")

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On 6/28/2012 4:17 PM, malcolmlewis wrote:[color=blue]

> Doesn’t work with windows 8 secure boot and UEFI…[/color]

What does work with that??? Anything? I haven’t seen anything that  
does… LiLO?

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/about-time-d/22796/4 "2012-06-28T23:23:53Z")

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:19:54 GMT  
JayZie [jeromecalderwood@gmail.com](mailto:jeromecalderwood@gmail.com) wrote:  
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> On 6/28/2012 4:17 PM, malcolmlewis wrote:[color=green]
> 
> > Doesn’t work with windows 8 secure boot and UEFI…[/color]
> 
> What does work with that??? Anything? I haven’t seen anything that  
> does… LiLO?  
> [/color]  
> UEFI and elilo I would assume… (that’s what I’m running here…but no  
> windows only openSUSE and SLE)

There is a test system (qemu-kvm) here…  
[http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1206.3/01710.html](http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1206.3/01710.html)

–  
Cheers Malcolm Â°Â¿Â° (Linux Counter #276890)  
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86\_64) Kernel 3.0.34-0.7-default  
up 2 days 1:20, 2 users, load average: 0.48, 0.38, 0.40  
CPU Intel i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | Intel Arrandale GPU

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/about-time-d/22796/5 "2012-06-28T23:43:38Z")

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On 6/28/2012 4:23 PM, malcolmlewis wrote:[color=blue]

> On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:19:54 GMT  
> JayZie [jeromecalderwood@gmail.com](mailto:jeromecalderwood@gmail.com) wrote:  
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> 
> > On 6/28/2012 4:17 PM, malcolmlewis wrote:[color=darkred]
> > 
> > > Doesn’t work with windows 8 secure boot and UEFI…[/color]
> > 
> > What does work with that??? Anything? I haven’t seen anything that  
> > does… LiLO?  
> > [/color]  
> > UEFI and elilo I would assume… (that’s what I’m running here…but no  
> > windows only openSUSE and SLE)
> 
> There is a test system (qemu-kvm) here…  
> [http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1206.3/01710.html](http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1206.3/01710.html)  
> [/color]

I will check it out… I will play with it for 5 mins, scap windows 8  
and keep using sled. And will not move to 8… Still have XP machines…  
Those need a refresher with Win 7.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/about-time-d/22796/6 "2012-06-29T00:59:12Z")

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:23:53 +0000, malcolmlewis wrote:  
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> On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:19:54 GMT JayZie [jeromecalderwood@gmail.com](mailto:jeromecalderwood@gmail.com)  
> wrote:  
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> 
> > On 6/28/2012 4:17 PM, malcolmlewis wrote:[color=darkred]
> > 
> > > Doesn’t work with windows 8 secure boot and UEFI…[/color]
> > 
> > What does work with that??? Anything? I haven’t seen anything that  
> > does… LiLO?  
> > [/color]  
> > UEFI and elilo I would assume… (that’s what I’m running here…but no  
> > windows only openSUSE and SLE)
> 
> There is a test system (qemu-kvm) here…  
> [http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1206.3/01710.html](http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1206.3/01710.html)[/color]

That’s pretty cool. Wonder if it could be made to work with VirtualBox.

Jim

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Jim Henderson, CNA6, CDE, CNI, LPIC-1, CLA10, CLP10  
Novell Knowledge Partner

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/about-time-d/22796/7 "2012-06-29T01:27:07Z")

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:59:12 GMT  
Jim Henderson [hendersj@no-mx.forums.novell.com](mailto:hendersj@no-mx.forums.novell.com) wrote:  
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> On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:23:53 +0000, malcolmlewis wrote:  
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> 
> > On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:19:54 GMT JayZie [jeromecalderwood@gmail.com](mailto:jeromecalderwood@gmail.com)  
> > wrote:  
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> > 
> > > On 6/28/2012 4:17 PM, malcolmlewis wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Doesn’t work with windows 8 secure boot and UEFI…
> > > 
> > > What does work with that??? Anything? I haven’t seen anything that  
> > > does… LiLO?  
> > > [/color]  
> > > UEFI and elilo I would assume… (that’s what I’m running  
> > > here…but no windows only openSUSE and SLE)
> > 
> > There is a test system (qemu-kvm) here…  
> > [http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1206.3/01710.html](http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1206.3/01710.html)[/color]
> 
> That’s pretty cool. Wonder if it could be made to work with  
> VirtualBox.
> 
> Jim
> 
> [/color]  
> Just install qemu? you notebook is vt capable?

I’m running it here now, was easy to install and running is a breeze.  
eg (I have a data partition);

```auto
cd data
mkdir kvmhdd
cd kvmhdd
qemu-img-kvm create openSUSE_12.2.img 10G
qemu-kvm -m 1024 -boot d --cdrom /data/repositories/iso_images/openSUSE-GNOME-LiveCD-Build0451-x86_64.iso /data/kvmhdd/openSUSE_12.2.img
```

Don’t forget to add your user to the kvm group, a reboot also helps…

–  
Cheers Malcolm Â°Â¿Â° (Linux Counter #276890)  
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86\_64) Kernel 3.0.34-0.7-default  
up 2 days 3:20, 3 users, load average: 0.03, 0.16, 0.26  
CPU Intel i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | Intel Arrandale GPU

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/about-time-d/22796/8 "2012-06-29T02:07:48Z")

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:27:07 +0000, malcolmlewis wrote:  
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> Just install qemu? you notebook is vt capable?[/color]

It is capable, just two different virtualization solutions seems like  
overkill. But if necessary, I’ll install qemu as well. 🙂  
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> I’m running it here now, was easy to install and running is a breeze.  
> eg (I have a data partition);
> 
> `
> cd data mkdir kvmhdd cd kvmhdd qemu-img-kvm create openSUSE_12.2.img 10G
> qemu-kvm -m 1024 -boot d --cdrom
> /data/repositories/iso_images/openSUSE-GNOME-LiveCD-Build0451-x86_64.iso
> /data/kvmhdd/openSUSE_12.2.img `
> 
> Don’t forget to add your user to the kvm group, a reboot also helps…[/color]

Great, thanks for the tips. 🙂

Jim

–  
Jim Henderson, CNA6, CDE, CNI, LPIC-1, CLA10, CLP10  
Novell Knowledge Partner
