# Changing environment from Cattle to Kubernetes

**URL:** <https://forums.suse.com/t/changing-environment-from-cattle-to-kubernetes/4078>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [September 22, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/changing-environment-from-cattle-to-kubernetes/4078 "2016-09-22T02:37:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![johnrengelman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/johnrengelman/32/134_2.png) [@johnrengelman](https://forums.suse.com/u/johnrengelman)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/changing-environment-from-cattle-to-kubernetes/4078/1 "2016-09-22T02:37:22Z")

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Has anyone tried updating an existing environment that is using the Cattle engine to a Kubernetes when you have deployed stacks? does that work or is it better to start with a fresh environment?  
Curious if the stacks themselves convert.

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**Author:** ![vincent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/vincent/32/7156_2.png) [@vincent](https://forums.suse.com/u/vincent)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/changing-environment-from-cattle-to-kubernetes/4078/2 "2016-09-22T05:03:10Z")

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Everything technically works (and kubernetes is actually deployed as a cattle template) but the UI won’t show the user cattle stacks anymore.

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**Author:** ![johnrengelman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/johnrengelman/32/134_2.png) [@johnrengelman](https://forums.suse.com/u/johnrengelman)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/changing-environment-from-cattle-to-kubernetes/4078/3 "2016-09-22T12:29:57Z")

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So there wouldn’t be a way to control those stacks anymore? Even to deactivate/delete them?

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**Author:** ![denise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/82dd89/32.png) [@denise](https://forums.suse.com/u/denise)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/changing-environment-from-cattle-to-kubernetes/4078/4 "2016-09-23T02:50:50Z")

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Correct, the stacks wouldn’t show up at all in the UI under `stacks`.