# Cloud question **URL:** \ **Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\ **Created:** [October 3, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725 "2016-10-03T23:52:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![System1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/1 "2016-10-03T23:52:37Z")
So there’s been discussions going on here for quite a while now about whether we should move our file & email services to the ‘cloud’. If we were to go this way, it would be with micro$oft office 365 e3 (I believe) scenario. My boss seems to think it will solve any storage issues we have permanently, which several of us have told him that’s probably not the case, at least down the road. It’s been brought up here that having user data in the cloud would benefit people here that are more mobile, and I agree it probably would. The kicker is, out of over 750 employees, we have very few that would realistically need there data this way, and IMO moving everyone to the cloud for these few is a HUGE amount of work and expense, _plus_ having almost everyone here encountering a large learning curve on how things would be done. Wondering if any of you are doing this, or no people who are, and could give me some real world insights, pros, cons, etc. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/2 "2016-10-04T03:09:39Z")
Stevo: Microfocus has created a new discussion group named Microfocus Support Technical Discussions that’s available to ask such questions to perhaps a wider audience, though it’s just been created so the audience might not be so wide quite yet. That said, you are welcome to continue to ask such questions here, among your friends. 🙂 – Susan Micro Focus Community Chat Moderator Please read the following before posting in here: [http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy](http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy) ---
**Author:** ![ketter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/2bfe46/32.png) [@ketter](https://forums.suse.com/u/ketter)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/3 "2016-10-04T15:47:15Z")
On Mon, 03 Oct 2016 20:52:37 GMT, “Stevo” [steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net](mailto:steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net) wrote: [color=blue] > So there’s been discussions going on here for quite a while now about > whether we should move our file & email services to the ‘cloud’. If we > were to go this way, it would be with micro$oft office 365 e3 > (I believe) scenario. > > My boss seems to think it will solve any storage issues we have > permanently, which several of us have told him that’s probably not the > case, at least down the road. > > It’s been brought up here that having user data in the cloud would > benefit people here that are more mobile, and I agree it probably > would. The kicker is, out of over 750 employees, we have very few that > would realistically need there data this way, and IMO moving everyone > to the cloud for these few is a HUGE amount of work and expense, _plus_ > having almost everyone here encountering a large learning curve on how > things would be done. > > Wondering if any of you are doing this, or no people who are, and could > give me some real world insights, pros, cons, etc.[/color] Hey Stevo. We haven’t gone that route. But just a thought, have you looked at Filr for the users who need remote access? We are using that here. Ken * * * Create and vote for enhancements! [https://www.novell.com/products/enhancement-request.html](https://www.novell.com/products/enhancement-request.html) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/4 "2016-10-04T16:41:15Z")
Susan sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > Stevo: > > Microfocus has created a new discussion group named Microfocus > Support Technical Discussions that’s available to ask such questions > to perhaps a wider audience, though it’s just been created so the > audience might not be so wide quite yet. > > That said, you are welcome to continue to ask such questions here, > among your friends. :)[/color] So my response to Susan’s comment is… Thanks for the info. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/5 "2016-10-04T16:43:22Z")
KeN Etter sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > Hey Stevo. We haven’t gone that route. But just a thought, have you > looked at Filr for the users who need remote access? We are using > that here. > Ken > [/color] So my response to KeN’s comment is… Well that would involve purchasing edir licensing which is out. Also, how would that work as far as sharing files with people outside of our organization? One ‘perk’ of the cloud route being passed around is the ability for users to share files/folders with pretty much anyone. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![malcolmlewis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/malcolmlewis/32/11375_2.png) [@malcolmlewis](https://forums.suse.com/u/malcolmlewis)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/6 "2016-10-04T16:49:17Z")
> [@](#): > > On Mon 03 Oct 2016 08:52:37 PM CDT, Stevo wrote: > > So there’s been discussions going on here for quite a while now about > whether we should move our file & email services to the ‘cloud’. If we > were to go this way, it would be with micro$oft office 365 e3 > (I believe) scenario. > > My boss seems to think it will solve any storage issues we have > permanently, which several of us have told him that’s probably not the > case, at least down the road. > > It’s been brought up here that having user data in the cloud would > benefit people here that are more mobile, and I agree it probably > would. The kicker is, out of over 750 employees, we have very few that > would realistically need there data this way, and IMO moving everyone > to the cloud for these few is a HUGE amount of work and expense, _plus_ > having almost everyone here encountering a large learning curve on how > things would be done. > > Wondering if any of you are doing this, or no people who are, and could > give me some real world insights, pros, cons, etc. Hi What about Owncloud… [https://owncloud.org/](https://owncloud.org/) – Cheers Malcolm °¿° LFCS, SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE Leap 42.1|GNOME 3.16.2|4.1.31-30-default If you find this post helpful and are logged into the web interface, please show your appreciation and click on the star below… Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![ab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@ab1](https://forums.suse.com/u/ab1)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/7 "2016-10-04T17:26:42Z")
One of Filr’s features is sharing files both internally and externally, as I recall: [https://www.novell.com/products/filr/features/help-you-take-back-control.html](https://www.novell.com/products/filr/features/help-you-take-back-control.html) A client of mine recently sent me a link to access stuff via Filr; seemed to work just fine. – Good luck. If you find this post helpful and are logged into the web interface, show your appreciation and click on the star below… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/8 "2016-10-04T18:10:35Z")
ab sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > One of Filr’s features is sharing files both internally and > externally, as I recall: > > [/color] > [https://www.novell.com/products/filr/features/help-you-take-back-control.html](https://www.novell.com/products/filr/features/help-you-take-back-control.html)[color=blue] > > A client of mine recently sent me a link to access stuff via Filr; > seemed to work just fine.[/color] So my response to ab’s comment is… Good to know, too bad we probably won’t be going back to edir, will be surprised if we’re still on Groupwise in the next 3-6 months. ☹ – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/9 "2016-10-04T18:11:48Z")
malcolmlewis sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > Hi > What about Owncloud… > [https://owncloud.org/](https://owncloud.org/)[/color] So my response to malcolmlewis’s comment is… The big push for us is m$ licensing (windows, office, etc) and going to their cloud package will ‘solve all our problems’ according to m$. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/10 "2016-10-04T18:17:46Z")
Stevo: You’re welcome. I’ve just come to my senses and realized that the new Business Solutions discussion forum would probably be the better choice, if you wanted to try the new forums, for the question you asked. And, fine to have asked it here. 🙂 – Susan Micro Focus Community Chat Moderator Please read the following before posting in here: [http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy](http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy) ---
**Author:** ![ab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@ab1](https://forums.suse.com/u/ab1)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/11 "2016-10-04T18:23:14Z")
Maybe I’m thick, but I do not think Filr even depends on eDirectory for its user store, but can use any old LDAP directory. I’m open to being corrected, but I think that’s the case. – Good luck. If you find this post helpful and are logged into the web interface, show your appreciation and click on the star below… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/12 "2016-10-04T18:39:03Z")
You’re not thick. It works with Active Directory, NetIQ eDirectory or a combination of both. 🙂 – Susan Micro Focus Community Chat Moderator Please read the following before posting in here: [http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy](http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy) ---
**Author:** ![ketter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/2bfe46/32.png) [@ketter](https://forums.suse.com/u/ketter)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/13 "2016-10-04T18:43:04Z")
On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:43:22 GMT, “Stevo” [steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net](mailto:steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net) wrote: [color=blue] > KeN Etter sounds like they ‘said’: > [color=green] > > > Hey Stevo. We haven’t gone that route. But just a thought, have you > > looked at Filr for the users who need remote access? We are using > > that here. > > Ken > > [/color] > > So my response to KeN’s comment is… > > Well that would involve purchasing edir licensing which is out. Also, > how would that work as far as sharing files with people outside of our > organization? > > One ‘perk’ of the cloud route being passed around is the ability for > users to share files/folders with pretty much anyone.[/color] Nope. eDirectory not required. And yes, you can share files with other people outside your org. You really should check it out. Ken * * * Create and vote for enhancements! [https://www.novell.com/products/enhancement-request.html](https://www.novell.com/products/enhancement-request.html) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/14 "2016-10-04T18:46:15Z")
Susan sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > You’re not thick. It works with Active Directory, NetIQ eDirectory or > a combination of both. :)[/color] So my response to Susan’s comment is… But it requires purchasing licensing. We are in a budget crunch so that won’t be happening. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![malcolmlewis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/malcolmlewis/32/11375_2.png) [@malcolmlewis](https://forums.suse.com/u/malcolmlewis)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/15 "2016-10-04T19:03:20Z")
> [@](#): > > On Tue 04 Oct 2016 03:11:48 PM CDT, Stevo wrote: > > The big push for us is m$ licensing (windows, office, etc) and going to > their cloud package will ‘solve all our problems’ according to m$. Hi Nope not April 1st\ 😉 So how much storage do you use (if it’s ok to ask?)… – Cheers Malcolm °¿° LFCS, SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE Leap 42.1|GNOME 3.16.2|4.1.31-30-default If you find this post helpful and are logged into the web interface, please show your appreciation and click on the star below… Thanks! ---
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Well, it doesn’t hurt to check the product page to see what the full requirements are. I just know those two. 🙂 – Susan Micro Focus Community Chat Moderator Please read the following before posting in here: [http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy](http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/17 "2016-10-04T19:31:24Z")
Also, wouldn’t there be licensing for the Microsoft Cloud solution? – Susan Micro Focus Community Chat Moderator Please read the following before posting in here: [http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy](http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725/18 "2016-10-04T19:33:07Z")
[https://www.novell.com/products/filr/technicalinfo/](https://www.novell.com/products/filr/technicalinfo/) – Susan Micro Focus Community Chat Moderator Please read the following before posting in here: [http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy](http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy) ---
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Susan sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > Also, wouldn’t there be licensing for the Microsoft Cloud solution?[/color] So my response to Susan’s comment is… Yes there would be licensing for that direction. Budget was submitted to go one way or the other, all or nothing, and not sure if the number would cover staying with what we have and including filr or not. I emailed our contact at cdw to see about a quote, just to see what it runs per license. It’s a complicated situation here, moving to m$'s ecs licensing would probably make things easier licensing-wise, and they’re trying to sell my boss saying it will be cheaper in the long run, but I don’t believe that’s the case. – Stevo ---
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If you don’t believe it’s the case, then do a spreadsheet of actual figures, but don’t be surprised if they ignore it, anyway. Once MS gets a grip on a decision maker, they don’t let go. They have other ways of persuading decision makers to choose MS. – Susan Micro Focus Community Chat Moderator Please read the following before posting in here: [http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy](http://preview.tinyurl.com/27zopdy) [Next page](https://forums.suse.com/t/cloud-question/28725.md?page=2)