# Confused

**URL:** <https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199>\
**Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\
**Created:** [February 10, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199 "2012-02-10T22:29:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![System1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/1 "2012-02-10T22:29:47Z")

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Can someone explain what has happened to the Novell forums?  
Today, two of the groups I was subscribed to have been closed with a  
message that I do not understand, something about they have been moved  
to the equivalent SuSE or NetIq groups which I am not able to locate.

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**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/2 "2012-02-10T22:34:34Z")

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Are you using a NewsReader? Have you updated your List of Groups?

For Example - novell.support.edirectory.netware is now  
netiq.support.edirectory.netware

However, all the groups should be available from the [forums.novell.com](http://forums.novell.com)  
newsgroup server.

On 2/10/2012 3:29 PM, GofBorg wrote:[color=blue]

> Can someone explain what has happened to the Novell forums?  
> Today, two of the groups I was subscribed to have been closed with a  
> message that I do not understand, something about they have been moved  
> to the equivalent SuSE or NetIq groups which I am not able to locate.[/color]

–  
Craig Wilson - MCNE, MCSE, CCNA  
Novell Knowledge Partner

Novell does not officially monitor these forums.

Suggestions/Opinions/Statements made by me are solely my own.  
These thoughts may not be shared by either Novell or any rational human.

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**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/3 "2012-02-10T22:39:50Z")

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No problem. As products are being rebranded it made sense to put them  
in the forums sites under their respective new brands. The ISM world  
(eDir, IDM, NAM, Sentinel, etc.) is now part of NetIQ, the SUSE stuff is  
all still under SUSE (but not on the forums site as well) and the Novell  
stuff is still under novell. The message was put there to let you know  
that discussions will be continued under the brand of the correct  
products. With that said, I think the message was only for NNTP-based  
users such as you and me. Just unsubscribe from the current forum and  
subscribe to its counterpart under the brand where it will be going  
forward. In one case that I know of the equivalent was absorbed in  
other things (NMAS… it will not just be handled in the eDir fora) but  
in all other cases that I noticed there was an exact equivalent under  
the new brand. All of these NNTP fora can be accessed from the same  
[forums.novell.com](http://forums.novell.com) server so no need to even change that point of access.

Good luck.  
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**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/4 "2012-02-10T23:07:37Z")

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ab wrote:  
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> Just unsubscribe from the  
> current forum and subscribe to its counterpart under the brand where  
> it will be going forward.[/color]

The new forums do not contain all the old messages.

If you want to keep the old messages make sure they aren’t deleted when  
you unsubscribe.

For example, when you unsubscribe from XanaNews all the existing  
messages -are- deleted.

–  
Kevin Boyle - Knowledge Partner  
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**Author:** ![kgroneman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f1d935/32.png) [@kgroneman](https://forums.suse.com/u/kgroneman)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/5 "2012-02-10T23:40:09Z")

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The old forums will be there until March 1st so if anyone wants to pull  
them down, they have a little time to do it.

–  
Kim - 2/10/2012 2:39:43 PM

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/6 "2012-02-11T00:26:11Z")

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So where is SLES-configure-administer supposed to be?  
I don’t find a comparable group anywhere.

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/7 "2012-02-11T00:38:41Z")

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GofBorg wrote:  
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> So where is SLES-configure-administer supposed to be?  
> I don’t find a comparable group anywhere.[/color]

suse.support.server.configure-administer

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/8 "2012-02-11T00:49:16Z")

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> suse.support.server.configure-administer

The group “suse” does not show up in my newsreader.  
Knode 4.8.0r462

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/9 "2012-02-11T00:50:33Z")

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I have netiq, novell and opensuse.

No amount of refreshing the lists is adding ‘suse’.

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/10 "2012-02-11T00:52:40Z")

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Nevermind, I found the issue.

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/11 "2012-02-11T00:54:24Z")

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GofBorg wrote:  
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> > suse.support.server.configure-administer[/color]
> 
> The group “suse” does not show up in my newsreader.  
> Knode 4.8.0r462[/color]

The news server is still [forums.novell.com](http://forums.novell.com).

You will have to refresh or once again download the list of newsgroups  
to see the new ones.

–  
Kevin Boyle - Knowledge Partner  
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**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/12 "2012-02-11T00:57:37Z")

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> You will have to refresh or once again download the list of newsgroups[color=blue]  
> to see the new ones.[/color]

Knode 4.8 breaks it down into Lists and Groups. You have to refresh both  
seperately.

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/13 "2012-02-11T01:02:01Z")

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GofBorg wrote:  
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> > You will have to refresh or once again download the list of  
> > newsgroups to see the new ones.[/color]
> 
> Knode 4.8 breaks it down into Lists and Groups. You have to refresh  
> both seperately.[/color]

Thanks for the solution. You just know that someone else is going to  
encounter the same issue.

This is probably enough support for now or Susan will once again gently  
remind everyone that this forum is not for support issues. 🙂

–  
Kevin Boyle - Knowledge Partner  
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**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/14 "2012-02-12T07:03:33Z")

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Helping people find the right forum isn’t support, it’s good business  
sense.

–  
Susan  
Novell Community Chat Moderator

[http://forums.novell.com/faq.php?faq=novfor#faq\_rules](http://forums.novell.com/faq.php?faq=novfor#faq_rules)  
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Please read the following before posting in here:  
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**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/confused/22199/15 "2012-02-12T10:16:47Z")

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Susan wrote:  
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> Helping people find the right forum isn’t support, it’s good business  
> sense. [/color]

Thank you for your support… 🙂

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Kevin Boyle - Knowledge Partner  
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