# Default-http-backend missing

**URL:** <https://forums.suse.com/t/default-http-backend-missing/21360>\
**Category:** SUSE Rancher Prime\
**Created:** [October 9, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/default-http-backend-missing/21360 "2021-10-09T00:38:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![jamrizzi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/jamrizzi/32/2256_2.png) [@jamrizzi](https://forums.suse.com/u/jamrizzi)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/default-http-backend-missing/21360/1 "2021-10-09T00:38:24Z")

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I am no longer getting a `default backend - 404` response when a service does not exist. Instead I am getting `(52) Empty reply from server`. I also noticed the `default-http-backend` service and deployment no longer exist in the new rancher. Is there any documentation on these changes?

I also noticed the ConfigMaps `tcp-services` and `udp-services` are missing. However `ingress-nginx` is still installed.

I am using rancher v2.6.0. I am using a custom cluster.

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**Author:** ![jamrizzi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/jamrizzi/32/2256_2.png) [@jamrizzi](https://forums.suse.com/u/jamrizzi)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/default-http-backend-missing/21360/2 "2021-10-09T00:59:52Z")

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I noticed the the args

```
- --tcp-services-configmap=$(POD_NAMESPACE)/tcp-services
- --udp-services-configmap=$(POD_NAMESPACE)/udp-services

```

are missing from the `nginx-ingress-controller`. Is that intentional?

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**Author:** ![jamrizzi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/jamrizzi/32/2256_2.png) [@jamrizzi](https://forums.suse.com/u/jamrizzi)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/default-http-backend-missing/21360/3 "2021-10-09T01:07:18Z")

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Ok, I have verified that was the issue. I’m still curious why those arguments were removed.

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**Author:** ![Lewis\_Carroll](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/lewis_carroll/32/6518_2.png) [@Lewis\_Carroll](https://forums.suse.com/u/Lewis_Carroll)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/default-http-backend-missing/21360/4 "2021-10-10T16:07:15Z")

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I think it’s not on by default anymore you have to enable it. I breifly remember Adrian Goins mentioning it in a video.