# Docker, user-docker and system-docker strange behavior

**URL:** <https://forums.suse.com/t/docker-user-docker-and-system-docker-strange-behavior/4872>\
**Category:** RancherOS\
**Created:** [December 11, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/docker-user-docker-and-system-docker-strange-behavior/4872 "2016-12-11T22:05:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![SecretiveMop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@SecretiveMop](https://forums.suse.com/u/SecretiveMop)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/docker-user-docker-and-system-docker-strange-behavior/4872/1 "2016-12-11T22:05:13Z")

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When I boot from the iso, the following commands give the following result which I do not understand:

docker command: works  
user-docker:  
FATA[0000] remove /var/lib/rancher/engine/docker: permission denied

[rancher@rancher ~]$ sudo user-docker  
FATA[0000] open /engine: no such file or directory

[rancher@rancher ~]$ docker  
-bash: /bin/docker: No such file or directory

system-docker: works perfectly

SO, I don’t get it: if you try running user-docker it will remove your ability to run the “normal” docker and won’t run anyway but once you run system-docker you still won’t be able to run user-docker?

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**Author:** ![joshwget](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/joshwget/32/704_2.png) [@joshwget](https://forums.suse.com/u/joshwget)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/docker-user-docker-and-system-docker-strange-behavior/4872/2 "2016-12-12T02:29:04Z")

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`user-docker` is a command designed to be used behind the scenes and not for general usage. It’ll be hidden in v0.8.0 and future releases.

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**Author:** ![SecretiveMop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@SecretiveMop](https://forums.suse.com/u/SecretiveMop)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/docker-user-docker-and-system-docker-strange-behavior/4872/3 "2016-12-12T08:13:05Z")

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aah, thanks now I get it
