# Does a production Rancher Server install need persistent storage?

**URL:** <https://forums.suse.com/t/does-a-production-rancher-server-install-need-persistent-storage/37048>\
**Category:** SUSE Rancher Prime\
**Created:** [February 19, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/does-a-production-rancher-server-install-need-persistent-storage/37048 "2022-02-19T01:59:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![asrozar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/asrozar/32/8646_2.png) [@asrozar](https://forums.suse.com/u/asrozar)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/does-a-production-rancher-server-install-need-persistent-storage/37048/1 "2022-02-19T01:59:46Z")

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I just installed rancher 2.6 on a [VKE](https://www.vultr.com/docs/vultr-kubernetes-engine/) with helm using [this](https://rancher.com/docs/rancher/v2.6/en/installation/install-rancher-on-k8s/) guide. Now I’d like to import a different k8s cluster but I’m curious if my installation of `Rancher Server` is really production-ready, as in when I start importing clusters will I lose any rancher data in the event of a VKE failure? I can’t find any reference to persistent storage for the helm chart.

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**Author:** ![mattmattox](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/mattmattox/32/5503_2.png) [@mattmattox](https://forums.suse.com/u/mattmattox)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/does-a-production-rancher-server-install-need-persistent-storage/37048/2 "2022-02-19T02:42:10Z")

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No, the Rancher server does not need persistent storage. Rancher stores all its data using CRDs in the local cluster. You only need one if you want to use Rancher-Backup to backup your Rancher objects instead of using a etcd backup.

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**Author:** ![asrozar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/asrozar/32/8646_2.png) [@asrozar](https://forums.suse.com/u/asrozar)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/does-a-production-rancher-server-install-need-persistent-storage/37048/3 "2022-02-19T02:54:42Z")

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Thank you @mattmattox!