# HA limitations?
**URL:** https://forums.suse.com/t/ha-limitations/24883
**Category:** SLES High Availability Extension
**Created:** [December 14, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ha-limitations/24883 "2013-12-14T14:57:10Z")
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### Author:  [@klemenvi](https://forums.suse.com/u/klemenvi)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ha-limitations/24883/1 "2013-12-14T14:57:10Z")
Hi, are there any limitation of using SLES for Vmware and HA extension?
Situation would be:
- two Sles for vmware Apache servers in active passive HA configuration
- hosting on multi node ESXi cluster
One machine will be mainly locked on 4 nodes of primary site, second on 4 nodes of secondary site, but I need possibility to move nodes all over ESXi cluster (drs) without downtime.
HA Apache cluster should be possible to automatically switch to second node in case of first node failure.
Is this possible?
thanks
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### Author:  [@smflood](https://forums.suse.com/u/smflood)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ha-limitations/24883/2 "2013-12-15T01:51:30Z")
klemenvi Wrote in message:
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> Hi, are there any limitation of using SLES for Vmware and HA extension?
>
> Situation would be:
>
> - two Sles for vmware Apache servers in active passive HA configuration
> - hosting on multi node ESXi cluster
>
> One machine will be mainly locked on 4 nodes of primary site, second on
> 4 nodes of secondary site, but I need possibility to move nodes all over
> ESXi cluster (drs) without downtime.
>
> HA Apache cluster should be possible to automatically switch to second
> node in case of first node failure.
>
> Is this possible?[/color]
I was originally going to say that I didn’t think the SUSE Linux
Enterprise (SLE) High Availability Extension (HAE) was compatible
with SLES for VMware but after a bit of research now I’m not so
sure as scripts for monitoring VMware are included[1].
There is an interesting question about support however since SLE
HAE is supported by SUSE whilst SLES for VMware is supported by
VMware.
HTH.
## [1] [https://www.suse.com/products/highavailability/features/flexib](https://www.suse.com/products/highavailability/features/flexib) le\_policy-driven\_clustering.html
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### Author:  [@klemenvi](https://forums.suse.com/u/klemenvi)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ha-limitations/24883/3 "2013-12-15T15:45:24Z")
[QUOTE=smflood;18067]klemenvi Wrote in message:
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> Hi, are there any limitation of using SLES for Vmware and HA extension?
>
> Situation would be:
>
> - two Sles for vmware Apache servers in active passive HA configuration
> - hosting on multi node ESXi cluster
>
> One machine will be mainly locked on 4 nodes of primary site, second on
> 4 nodes of secondary site, but I need possibility to move nodes all over
> ESXi cluster (drs) without downtime.
>
> HA Apache cluster should be possible to automatically switch to second
> node in case of first node failure.
>
> Is this possible?[/color]
I was originally going to say that I didn’t think the SUSE Linux
Enterprise (SLE) High Availability Extension (HAE) was compatible
with SLES for VMware but after a bit of research now I’m not so
sure as scripts for monitoring VMware are included[1].
There is an interesting question about support however since SLE
HAE is supported by SUSE whilst SLES for VMware is supported by
VMware.
HTH.
## [1] [https://www.suse.com/products/highavailability/features/flexib](https://www.suse.com/products/highavailability/features/flexib) le\_policy-driven\_clustering.html
Simon
SUSE Knowledge Partner
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If you think that SLESforVMware can be a problem I can use standard SLES. Have you seen or even more such scenario in production?
thanks
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ha-limitations/24883/4 "2013-12-16T18:00:02Z")
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 13:04:01 +0000, klemenvi wrote:
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> Hi, are there any limitation of using SLES for Vmware and HA extension?[/color]
None that I know of. I’m not sure what the point is of using SLES/HAE and
VMWare, though.
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> Situation would be:
>
> - two Sles for vmware Apache servers in active passive HA configuration
> - hosting on multi node ESXi cluster
>
> One machine will be mainly locked on 4 nodes of primary site, second on
> 4 nodes of secondary site, but I need possibility to move nodes all over
> ESXi cluster (drs) without downtime.[/color]
Wouldn’t this be handled by VMWare?
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### Author:  [@klemenvi](https://forums.suse.com/u/klemenvi)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ha-limitations/24883/5 "2013-12-16T20:56:58Z")
If I have two Apache servers in HA, I can manage (software patching…) inactive node, then switch (without down time) and manage first node…
If my primary site failed it will automatically switch to node on other site (without down time)…
What do you recommend for high available Apache cluster in virtual environment?
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### Author:  [@Jens-U](https://forums.suse.com/u/Jens-U)
#### Post date: [December 17, 2013, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ha-limitations/24883/6 "2013-12-17T14:44:35Z")
Hi klemenvi,
> [@klemenvi;18106](#):
>
> What do you recommend for high available Apache cluster in virtual environment?
how about an active/active Apache cluster (in terms of “running on separate VMs”, but no special cluster management to relocate httpd) with some load-sharing front-end, i.e. iptables’ cluster module?
Seems like much less hassle than creating a complete HA setup.
Regards,
Jens
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2013, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ha-limitations/24883/7 "2013-12-18T23:30:02Z")
On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:04:01 +0000, klemenvi wrote:
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> If I have two Apache servers in HA, I can manage (software patching…)
> inactive node, then switch (without down time) and manage first node…[/color]
Sure, that makes sense.
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> If my primary site failed it will automatically switch to node on other
> site (without down time)…[/color]
You could do this in SLES/HAE with the relatively new multi-site support.
Or you could do it at the VM level, using VMWare’s tools.
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> What do you recommend for high available Apache cluster in virtual
> environment?[/color]
SLES/HAE doesn’t really know or care if it’s running on physical or
virtual hosts. VMs and HA are different tools that can both solve many
similar problems.
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