# LAPD show common sense **URL:** \ **Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\ **Created:** [January 10, 2012, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/lapd-show-common-sense/22120 "2012-01-10T16:17:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![System1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/lapd-show-common-sense/22120/1 "2012-01-10T16:17:01Z")
[http://www.policeone.com/police-products/software/Data-Information-Sharing-Software/articles/4925574-LAPD-retreats-from-the-cloud/](http://www.policeone.com/police-products/software/Data-Information-Sharing-Software/articles/4925574-LAPD-retreats-from-the-cloud/) – Shaun Pond ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/lapd-show-common-sense/22120/2 "2012-01-10T16:44:25Z")
Shaun Pond wrote: [color=blue] > [/color] > [http://www.policeone.com/police-products/software/Data-Information-Sharing-Software/articles/4925574-LAPD-retreats-from-the-cloud/](http://www.policeone.com/police-products/software/Data-Information-Sharing-Software/articles/4925574-LAPD-retreats-from-the-cloud/) “You can be expert in the mechanics of a typical corporate computer network, and be baffled by the mysteries of Novell.” One could say the same of Microsoft. These guys always gotta do a little dig. Why can’t they simply report the news? – Does this washcloth smell like chloroform? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/lapd-show-common-sense/22120/3 "2012-01-10T16:54:36Z")
Joseph Marton wrote: [color=blue] > Why can’t they simply report the news?[/color] Because that’s no fun! Actually I find it interesting that this story is STILL in the news, since the original report of LAPD pulling out was from early October! I’m happy to see that it keeps coming up over and over though I guess. I just wish so many writers wouldn’t use “ancient GroupWise” or “legacy system” like they have a clue what they are talking about. This one says Novell systems are rare and arcane. Of course, we can’t comment because the site only allows for comments from law enforcement. – Danita Novell Knowledge Partner Upgrading to GroupWise 2012? [http://www.caledonia.net/gw12upg.html](http://www.caledonia.net/gw12upg.html) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/lapd-show-common-sense/22120/4 "2012-01-10T16:57:12Z")
On 1/10/2012 8:17 AM, Shaun Pond wrote:[color=blue] > [http://www.policeone.com/police-products/software/Data-Information-Sharing-Software/articles/4925574-LAPD-retreats-from-the-cloud/](http://www.policeone.com/police-products/software/Data-Information-Sharing-Software/articles/4925574-LAPD-retreats-from-the-cloud/) > [/color] sadly the retreat to GroupWise is only temporary until they get back to the PD’s original intent which was to move to Exchange. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/lapd-show-common-sense/22120/5 "2012-01-10T17:50:51Z")
It’s also only LAPD, and not the City of LA… Just one business unit in a very large organization. More interesting to me is, “You can be expert in the mechanics of a typical corporate computer network, and be baffled by the mysteries of Novell.” What’s confusing about Novell products? Relatively open standards? The concept of a directory? What a ‘byte’ is? On 1/10/2012 8:57 AM, Steve B wrote:[color=blue] > On 1/10/2012 8:17 AM, Shaun Pond wrote:[color=green] > > > [http://www.policeone.com/police-products/software/Data-Information-Sharing-Software/articles/4925574-LAPD-retreats-from-the-cloud/](http://www.policeone.com/police-products/software/Data-Information-Sharing-Software/articles/4925574-LAPD-retreats-from-the-cloud/) > > > > [/color] > > sadly the retreat to GroupWise is only temporary until they get back to > the PD’s original intent which was to move to Exchange.[/color] ---
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unsigned wrote: [color=blue] > It’s also only LAPD, and not the City of LA… Just one business unit in a > very large organization.[/color] Well, if I’m not mistaken, the LAPD is about 13000 users, and approximately HALF of the entire City’s employees, so it’s not “just one business unit” overall. – Danita Novell Knowledge Partner Upgrading to GroupWise 2012? [http://www.caledonia.net/gw12upg.html](http://www.caledonia.net/gw12upg.html) ---
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On 10.01.2012 17:21, DZanre wrote:[color=blue] > unsigned wrote: > [color=green] > > > It’s also only LAPD, and not the City of LA… Just one business unit in a > > very large organization.[/color] > > Well, if I’m not mistaken, the LAPD is about 13000 users, and approximately HALF > of the entire City’s employees, so it’s not “just one business unit” overall.[/color] Wasn’t it 30.000 users, of which 17.000 were moved to Google already, and 13.000 still being on groupwise? ## CU, Massimo Rosen Novell Knowledge Partner No emails please! [http://www.cfc-it.de](http://www.cfc-it.de) ---
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Massimo Rosen wrote: [color=blue] > Wasn’t it 30.000 users, of which 17.000 were moved to Google already, and > 13.000 still being on groupwise?[/color] Yes, the 13000 are all LAPD to my knowledge. So less than half - but stil not a “little business unit” by any means. – Danita Novell Knowledge Partner Upgrading to GroupWise 2012? [http://www.caledonia.net/gw12upg.html](http://www.caledonia.net/gw12upg.html) ---
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You should put in a proposal to upgrade their GW and let them compare the cost/effort. You could use laying on the beach a couple of times a year. – Kim - 1/10/2012 3:49:18 PM ---
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kgroneman wrote: [color=blue] > You could use laying on the beach a couple of times a year.[/color] Do I look that pale? – Danita Novell Knowledge Partner Upgrading to GroupWise 2012? [http://www.caledonia.net/gw12upg.html](http://www.caledonia.net/gw12upg.html) ---
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 23:51:36 +0000, DZanre wrote: [color=blue] > kgroneman wrote: > [color=green] > > > You could use laying on the beach a couple of times a year.[/color] > > Do I look that pale?[/color] How! Pale face. ---
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On 11/01/2012 16:18, Bob Crandell wrote: [color=blue] > How! Pale face.[/color] Not enough sun! Stupid. ## 😉 Simon Novell/SUSE/NetIQ Knowledge Partner * * * ## Do you work with Novell technologies at a university, college or school? If so, your campus could benefit from joining the Novell Technology Transfer Partner (TTP) program. See [novell.com/ttp](http://novell.com/ttp) for more details. ---
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:12:53 +0000, Simon Flood wrote: [color=blue] > On 11/01/2012 16:18, Bob Crandell wrote: > [color=green] > > > How! Pale face.[/color] > > Not enough sun! Stupid. > > ;-)[/color] It’s hard to tell from over here. You know all you goim look alike.