# New Year, New Challenge **URL:** \ **Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\ **Created:** [January 13, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/new-year-new-challenge/24976 "2014-01-13T17:17:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![System1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/new-year-new-challenge/24976/1 "2014-01-13T17:17:22Z")
Happy New Year Y’All. With a new year comes a new challenge. Parts list: 1 Computer with Windows 7 pro 2 Monitors 2 Keyboards 2 Mice 2 Users Goal: Each user to use some random Wondows program independantly with the added ability to transfer control of at leasst one of the programs to the other user. One of my clients brought this to me last week. I know there has been talk about doing this kind of thing over the years. Are we any closer to being able to being able to have 2 users work in 2 different programs on the same computer independantly? Gat run Bob ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/new-year-new-challenge/24976/2 "2014-01-13T17:25:24Z")
On 01/13/2014 08:17 AM, Bob Crandell wrote:[color=blue] > Happy New Year Y’All. > > With a new year comes a new challenge. > Parts list: > 1 Computer with Windows 7 pro[/color] So you’re starting with a honeypot… [color=blue] > 2 Monitors > 2 Keyboards > 2 Mice > 2 Users > > Goal: > Each user to use some random Wondows program independantly with the added > ability to transfer control of at leasst one of the programs to the other > user.[/color] So a thin client setup? Wasn’t that all the rage back in the 80’s before personal computers became cheap? I guess now you want to turn a personal computer into that mainframe from yesteryear. [color=blue] > One of my clients brought this to me last week. I know there has been talk > about doing this kind of thing over the years. Are we any closer to being > able to being able to have 2 users work in 2 different programs on the same > computer independantly?[/color] Sure, and this has been available for quite a few years for the masses: [http://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/Multiseat/](http://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/Multiseat/) There are probably other options too. All you need is a real OS (downloadable) and the hardware (check). – Good luck. If you find this post helpful and are logged into the web interface, show your appreciation and click on the star below… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/new-year-new-challenge/24976/3 "2014-01-13T22:59:02Z")
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:17:22 +0000, Bob Crandell wrote: [color=blue] > Each user to use some random Wondows program independantly with the > added ability to transfer control of at leasst one of the programs to > the other user. > > One of my clients brought this to me last week. I know there has been > talk about doing this kind of thing over the years. Are we any closer > to being able to being able to have 2 users work in 2 different programs > on the same computer independantly?[/color] Terminal services or Citrix would solve the latter issue. For the first issue, that sounds like a process issue rather than a technology issue. Jim – Jim Henderson, CNA6, CDE, CNI, LPIC-1, CLA10, CLP10 Novell/SUSE/NetIQ Knowledge Partner ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/new-year-new-challenge/24976/4 "2014-03-20T01:39:03Z")
Jim Henderson wrote: [color=blue] > On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:17:22 +0000, Bob Crandell wrote: > > Terminal services or Citrix would solve the latter issue. For the first > issue, that sounds like a process issue rather than a technology issue. > > Jim > [/color] > Ok. With this solution, can he who is running Firefox slide it over to her > who is using Calc and drag her Calc over to his desktop? He would then > finish the inventory report while she is playing online poker. This would work? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/new-year-new-challenge/24976/5 "2014-03-20T02:32:33Z")
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 23:39:03 +0000, Preferred User wrote: [color=blue] > Jim Henderson wrote: > [color=green] > > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:17:22 +0000, Bob Crandell wrote: > > > > Terminal services or Citrix would solve the latter issue. For the > > first issue, that sounds like a process issue rather than a technology > > issue. > > > > Jim > > [/color] > > Ok. With this solution, can he who is running Firefox slide it over to > > her who is using Calc and drag her Calc over to his desktop? He would > > then finish the inventory report while she is playing online poker. > > This would work?[/color] Probably not, because it’s not a share desktop amongst all users - you end up with very poor security with a single shared desktop. But I know that in hospitals, this type of solution is sometimes used so a user’s desktop can be moved from room to room. The most recent experience I had in a hospital ER (a couple weeks ago), I noticed it was VMware Infrastructure. Jim – Jim Henderson, CNA6, CDE, CNI, LPIC-1, CLA10, CLP10 Novell/SUSE/NetIQ Knowledge Partner ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/new-year-new-challenge/24976/6 "2014-03-21T02:10:30Z")
Jim Henderson wrote: [color=blue] > On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 23:39:03 +0000, Preferred User wrote: > [color=green] > > > Jim Henderson wrote: > > [color=darkred] > > > > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:17:22 +0000, Bob Crandell wrote: > > > > > > Terminal services or Citrix would solve the latter issue. For the > > > first issue, that sounds like a process issue rather than a technology > > > issue. > > > > > > Jim > > > [/color] > > > Ok. With this solution, can he who is running Firefox slide it over to > > > her who is using Calc and drag her Calc over to his desktop? He would > > > then finish the inventory report while she is playing online poker. > > > > This would work?[/color] > > Probably not, because it’s not a share desktop amongst all users - you > end up with very poor security with a single shared desktop. > > But I know that in hospitals, this type of solution is sometimes used so > a user’s desktop can be moved from room to room. The most recent > experience I had in a hospital ER (a couple weeks ago), I noticed it was > VMware Infrastructure. > > Jim > [/color] > In this case it is a dentist office. The users are sitting next to each > other. Looks like to make this work they will need a combination of MDM and > VMware. Oh well. The hunt goes on. I wonder just how badly he really wants this … ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/new-year-new-challenge/24976/7 "2014-03-21T17:37:23Z")
On 19/03/2014 23:39, Preferred User wrote:[color=blue] > Ok. With this solution, can he who is running Firefox slide it over to her > who is using Calc and drag her Calc over to his desktop? He would then > finish the inventory report while she is playing online poker. > > This would work?[/color] IIRC, AT&T had this in their innovative VNC/Corba environment - not only desktop mobility (presence badges let you sit down at any terminal and have “your” desktop delivered to you) but the ability to “offer” your running app to anyone on the same server, which would on “accept” shift it to their xwindows based desktop while still running as “you”. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/new-year-new-challenge/24976/8 "2014-03-25T12:22:39Z")
Dave Howe [DaveHowe@invalid.dom](mailto:DaveHowe@invalid.dom) wrote in news:T0ZWu.6833$8g7.5498 @novprvlin0913.provo.novell.com: [color=blue] > the ability to “offer” your > running app to anyone on the same server, which would on “accept” shift > it to their xwindows based desktop while still running as “you”. > > [/color] Sounds like a bug used as a feature 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/new-year-new-challenge/24976/9 "2014-03-25T19:41:56Z")
Dave Taylor wrote: [color=blue] > Dave Howe [DaveHowe@invalid.dom](mailto:DaveHowe@invalid.dom) wrote in news:T0ZWu.6833$8g7.5498 > @novprvlin0913.provo.novell.com: > [color=green] > > > the ability to “offer” your > > running app to anyone on the same server, which would on “accept” shift > > it to their xwindows based desktop while still running as “you”. > > > > [/color] > > Sounds like a bug used as a feature :)[/color] > You say potato. I say potato. Wait. That looks the same.