# ngwlist is down

**URL:** <https://forums.suse.com/t/ngwlist-is-down/23071>\
**Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\
**Created:** [September 10, 2012, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ngwlist-is-down/23071 "2012-09-10T22:02:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![System1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ngwlist-is-down/23071/1 "2012-09-10T22:02:55Z")

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Anybody here understand Mailman mailing lists? The host that runs ngwlist had a  
“critical” error today and Linode rebooted it. Now mail will come into the  
system, but the mailman process doesn’t seem to move them from the “in” queue  
out to the mailing list. Since I inherited the system, I’m at a loss!

Thanks!

–  
Danita  
Novell Knowledge Partner  
[http://www.gethealthywithdanita.com](http://www.gethealthywithdanita.com)

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ngwlist-is-down/23071/2 "2012-09-10T22:15:47Z")

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DZanre wrote:  
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> Since I inherited the system, I’m at a loss![/color]

But I figured it out. The former admin of the list contacted me in June to let  
me know that he periodically gets notifications from the list, and I hunted and  
pecked until I found a list called “mailman” that had him listed as the admin.  
Since we weren’t using that list at all, I deleted it. Apparently it’s a  
required list. Everything ran just fine until the server got rebooted. The  
actual error I received was:

Starting mailman: Site list is missing: mailman

And indeed, the “mailman” list was gone, so once I recreated that, mailman would  
load again and mail is flowing!

–  
Danita  
Novell Knowledge Partner  
[http://www.gethealthywithdanita.com](http://www.gethealthywithdanita.com)

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**Author:** ![kgroneman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f1d935/32.png) [@kgroneman](https://forums.suse.com/u/kgroneman)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ngwlist-is-down/23071/3 "2012-09-10T22:42:19Z")

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Doncha just hate people that delete stuff they don’t know what  
is?..

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Kim - 9/10/2012 1:41:58 PM

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ngwlist-is-down/23071/4 "2012-09-10T23:09:15Z")

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DZanre wrote:  
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> DZanre wrote:  
> [color=green]
> 
> > Since I inherited the system, I’m at a loss![/color]
> 
> But I figured it out. The former admin of the list contacted me in June  
> to let me know that he periodically gets notifications from the list, and  
> I hunted and pecked until I found a list called “mailman” that had him  
> listed as the admin.  
> Since we weren’t using that list at all, I deleted it. Apparently it’s a  
> required list. Everything ran just fine until the server got rebooted.  
> The actual error I received was:
> 
> Starting mailman: Site list is missing: mailman
> 
> And indeed, the “mailman” list was gone, so once I recreated that, mailman  
> would load again and mail is flowing!  
> [/color]

Have to love those oops situations 😉

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/ngwlist-is-down/23071/5 "2012-09-10T23:14:11Z")

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“kgroneman” wrote:  
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> Doncha just hate people that delete stuff they don’t know what is?..[/color]

Yep.

–  
Danita  
Novell Knowledge Partner  
[http://www.gethealthywithdanita.com](http://www.gethealthywithdanita.com)