# nntp issues?

**URL:** <https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633>\
**Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\
**Created:** [February 15, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633 "2013-02-15T21:32:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![System1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/1 "2013-02-15T21:32:32Z")

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I seem to have a lot of problems connecting my newsreader to the forum  
today. Lots of timeouts and delays. Anything going on out there or  
do I need to look into things here?

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/2 "2013-02-15T21:35:26Z")

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KeN Etter,[color=blue]

> seem to have a lot of problems connecting my newsreader to the forum  
> today. Lots of timeouts and delays. Anything going on out there or  
> do I need to look into things here?[/color]

Seems fine from here

–  
Anders Gustafsson (NKP)  
The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/3 "2013-02-15T22:05:12Z")

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KeN Etter sounds like they ‘said’:  
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> I seem to have a lot of problems connecting my newsreader to the forum  
> today. Lots of timeouts and delays. Anything going on out there or  
> do I need to look into things here?[/color]

So my response to KeN’s comment is…

Seems fine for me, one might say a bit busy today too.

–  
Stevo

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/4 "2013-02-15T22:31:51Z")

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Which newsreader are you using? Can you describe how you  
feel/experience/observe these “timeouts and delays”? Details, in this  
case, will really help.

Good luck.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/5 "2013-02-16T00:26:01Z")

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Forte Agent. It claims not to post new messages. It does not retrieve  
new headers and it does not retrieve message bodies. It tells me  
Connection closed unexpectedly by server. But looking at the forum  
through a web browser, it appears that some of my posts are getting  
posted. Actually they get posted multiple times because I keep trying  
because Agent says it never posted. But I can’t read anything though  
Agent because it doesn’t retrieve anything. It always used to work  
flawlessly. For a while now I have had intermittent issues, but today  
is just really bad. I’m starting to wonder how much traffic is going  
through my internet connection. I need to look at that.

## – ketter

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/6 "2013-02-16T01:29:29Z")

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Well, I’m guessing either your side or something outside of Novell. I  
know somebody who downloaded tons of forums, kinda from scratch, using a  
different news reader, yesterday. Sure, possible things have changed in  
the last day, but I have not noticed this particular symptom. I’m not  
saying it’s your client, but your thoughts about your connection may be  
valid, or maybe something else on your network (router, network or host  
firewall, bad wireless, stupid ISP, etc.) may be at fault. Worst case  
perhaps get a LAN trace of NNTP from your workstation and see if you  
really are getting resets from the server and then, if so, try from  
another location and see if it happens there (away from your ISP, work,  
home, or whatever). Post the LAN trace for analysis somewhere if stuck.

Good luck.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/7 "2013-02-18T18:00:46Z")

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Hmmm…just testing with another news reader and it appears to work fine.  
I’ve contacted tech support for my typical news reader to see what they have  
to say.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/8 "2013-02-18T23:06:01Z")

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I tried it from home, still no go. As far as I can tell, either  
something is up with the Novell’s server or with the Agent software. If  
you want to look at it, a trace is available at  
[www.msktd.com/trace/agent.pcap](https://www.msktd.com/trace/agent.pcap) I have requested support from Forte Inc,  
but haven’t heard back from them yet.

Regards,  
Ken

## – ketter

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/9 "2013-02-18T23:27:39Z")

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Well, the LAN trace is very straight-forward: Your NNTP client is sending  
this:

XFEATURE COMPRESS GZIP TERMINATOR

Once that happens, presumably to enable some kind of compression or  
something, the connection is closed by the server. Apparently this is a  
magical feature that Forte Inc. thinks should work, but I do not think  
it’s a standard at all (not part of any RFCc I’ve found so far) and so it  
seems like something that should not be sent unless it is known to be  
supported by the server. In fact, if I put in XFEATURE followed by  
anything the server closes the connection on me.

So how do you move forward? First, disable whatever it is in Forte Agent  
that enables that use of a non-feature.

If that does not work, use another client.

Good luck.

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/10 "2013-06-21T23:14:09Z")

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On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:17:26 GMT, “kgroneman” [kgroneman@novell.com](mailto:kgroneman@novell.com)  
wrote:  
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> Hey KeN Etter,  
> [color=green]
> 
> > I seem to have a lot of problems connecting my newsreader to the forum  
> > today. Lots of timeouts and delays. Anything going on out there or  
> > do I need to look into things here?[/color]
> 
> Whaddaya talkin’ about? I don’t see any NNTP problems. ;-)[/color]

I don’t either…now. Thanks!

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/11 "2013-06-21T23:49:07Z")

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On 2/15/2013 2:32 PM, KeN Etter wrote:[color=blue]

> I seem to have a lot of problems connecting my newsreader to the forum  
> today. Lots of timeouts and delays. Anything going on out there or  
> do I need to look into things here?  
> [/color]  
> For the past several days my Thunderbird news reader wouldn’t even  
> connect. Just started working again a little while ago.

Bob

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/12 "2013-06-22T11:03:43Z")

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Bob,

if you looked on the web at that time you would have seen a notice  
explaining that it was a hardware problem… 🙂

–

Shaun Pond

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/13 "2013-06-22T13:31:35Z")

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Oh… I knew there was a problem. Didn’t bother me. I knew it would be  
fixed eventually. The nature of our business, right?

Bob

On 6/22/2013 4:03 AM, Shaun Pond wrote:[color=blue]

> Bob,
> 
> if you looked on the web at that time you would have seen a notice  
> explaining that it was a hardware problem… 🙂  
> [/color]

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/14 "2013-06-22T20:25:30Z")

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Bob,[color=blue]

> I knew it would be  
> fixed eventually[/color]

Ie a SEP? 🙂

–  
Anders Gustafsson (NKP)  
The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

Have an idea for a product enhancement? Please visit:  
[http://www.novell.com/rms](http://www.novell.com/rms)

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/15 "2013-06-23T09:26:22Z")

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Bob,

🙂

–

Shaun Pond

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/nntp-issues/23633/16 "2013-06-26T18:06:01Z")

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Bob;2269253 Wrote:[color=blue]

> Oh… I knew it would be  
> fixed eventually.
> 
> Bob
> 
> One must remember that if Shaun is fixing it, the “eventually” time  
> would be measured in decades. He troubleshoots by government committee  
> and uses the government model of purchasing replacement parts. That  
> means that Shaun will have enough time to go to school on the equipment  
> that is in question, raise a herd of sheep for his enjoyment, raise a  
> brood of ducks for the duck sauce he prefers and roll tires down ramps.  
> This method will allow him to learn how to spell “IT”, provide suitable  
> time to catch one of the sheep and have a well aged duck sauce.[/color]

## – Sewermonger

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