# Quattro is 15

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**Created:** [August 14, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/quattro-is-15/22964 "2012-08-14T04:23:06Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/quattro-is-15/22964/1 "2012-08-14T04:23:06Z")

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I know - crazy! But today was my son’s 15th birthday. In Colorado, that means  
that we spent 2-1/2 hours at the drivers license office to obtain his learner’s  
permit (he had already passed the test. This was just 2-1/2 hours of sitting  
waiting!), and then he and I went to a huge abandoned parking lot and he drove  
around for 30 minutes - heehee.

–  
Danita  
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teaching someone to drive can be somewhat rewarding (eventually), i’m in  
the process of teaching my partner (he’s 26), good watching how far they  
come so quickly

2.5 hours to get the permit though that’s a bit of a laugh right?

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Danita:

If I remember correctly, one of the prime motivations for young men in  
getting a license is young women. So if he isn’t dating yet… ; )

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/quattro-is-15/22964/4 "2012-08-15T03:10:21Z")

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“Susan” wrote:  
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> So if he isn’t dating yet… ; )[/color]

Not yet - but he IS a lady killer in the making!

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/quattro-is-15/22964/5 "2012-08-15T03:23:36Z")

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gleach1 wrote:  
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> 2.5 hours to get the permit though that’s a bit of a laugh right?[/color]

That was just waiting for paperwork!

He had taken a 40 hour classroom course where he was taught the rules of the  
road, and shown gruesome videos of people who did stupid things and caused  
accidents thereby killing/maiming themselves and/or their passengers. After the  
40 hour class he took and passed the written test. This can be done no more  
than 30 days prior to applying for a learner’s permit.

Then the paperwork has to be taken to the drivers license office on or after the  
15th birthday (so yesterday of course!). Thus, we took the paperwork, and  
waited. When we arrived, they were assisting number 285. We were number 362.  
It was really just checking his paperwork, taking his picture for the permit,  
handing him a piece of paper that is is temporary permit, and then we were done.

We must now personally give him 12 hours behind the wheel training as penance  
before we return him to the driving school, and they will give him another 10  
hours of behind-the-wheel training. I don’t remember this with my daughter  
either. I thought the school had done all of the initial training, and we took  
over when they were finished. I can only surmise that they are tired of  
teaching kids how to turn on the ignition, put the car into gear, etc.

In Colorado, he must keep his permit for one year, and be at least 16 years old  
before he can take the behind-the-wheel driving test. He also has to log 50  
hours of behind-the-wheel practice, and 10 hours of night driving before he can  
take his test. Then he will be granted a license, but can only drive by himself  
or with family members for 6 months. Once the 6 months is up, I think he can  
have only one other non-family member under the age of 21 in the car with him  
for another 6 months (might be a year - I have to check - the law has changed  
since my now 21 got her license 5 years ago). We still allow 16 year olds here  
to get a drivers license, but they are essentially on probation until they are  
18, with a number of restrictions and curfews that they must follow.

–  
Danita  
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**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/quattro-is-15/22964/6 "2012-08-15T23:00:25Z")

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Hey DZanre,  
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> In Colorado, that means  
> that we spent 2-1/2 hours at the drivers license office to obtain his  
> learner’s permit[/color]

I didn’t know you could drive at 15 in Colorado. It’s 14 in Idaho, 16  
here.

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Kim - 8/15/2012 1:59:55 PM

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/quattro-is-15/22964/7 "2012-08-15T23:16:52Z")

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“kgroneman” wrote:  
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> I didn’t know you could drive at 15 in Colorado.[/color]

You can get your permit here at 15. It used to be 15-1/2, but they increased  
the permit requirement to a full year, and you can still get your license when  
you are 16.

–  
Danita  
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**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/quattro-is-15/22964/8 "2012-08-15T23:24:39Z")

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here 16 to get learners…but a 10 month process ag]=fter that to get full  
permit…and a 2 yeqar probation after that  
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> > > [/color][/color]  
> > > Hey DZanre,  
> > > [color=green]  
> > > In Colorado, that means  
> > > that we spent 2â1/2 hours at the drivers license office to obtain his  
> > > learner’s permit[/color]
> 
> I didn’t know you could drive at 15 in Colorado. It’s 14 in Idaho, 16  
> here.[/color]

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Paul

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/quattro-is-15/22964/9 "2012-08-16T02:26:01Z")

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geez driving at 14 sounds really young  
can’t get a learners permit here until you’re 16 and then can’t drive  
by yourself until 18, I think probation is now 3 or 4 years as well once  
you’re 18

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Hey gleach1,  
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> geez driving at 14 sounds really young[/color]

I was driving in Idaho when I was 14. I was a resident of Utah working  
on my uncle’s farm but they needed people to drive the trucks so I did  
it illegally. That’s the reason 14 year olds can get a license at 14  
there, because the farmers there need their sons to drive the trucks  
and equipment and you have to use the roads to get between fields and  
barns etc.

After about 10 minutes of instruction, the first _real_ vehicle I drove  
on the roads was an old school bus with the top taken off so it could  
haul hay. It had the standard 5 gears but it also had a red axle shift  
button that, when it was loaded down, you’d have to use between every  
shift. _THAT_ was the way to learn to drive a stick shift.

(I don’t mention that at age 14 I used to drive my cousin’s Ford  
Fairlane with 3 speed on the steering column to hell and back while he  
“visited” his girlfriend and didn’t want me around so turned me lose  
with his car…Idaho is a wild place!)

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Kim - 8/16/2012 9:38:22 AM

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/quattro-is-15/22964/11 "2012-08-16T19:52:07Z")

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gleach1 wrote:  
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> geez driving at 14 sounds really young[/color]

Did I post 14? We cannot drive here when we are 14 - we can get a learner’s  
permit at 16, and drivers license at 15.

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Danita  
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**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/quattro-is-15/22964/12 "2012-08-16T19:53:36Z")

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“kgroneman” wrote:  
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> Idaho is a wild place![/color]

Hmmm - your definition of wild is interesting - LOL.

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Danita  
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**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/quattro-is-15/22964/13 "2012-08-16T21:58:35Z")

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It felt wild when I was 14.

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Kim - 8/16/2012 12:58:22 PM

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Congratulations to your son, being able to drive gives so much freedom!

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