# Renaming a system group
**URL:** https://forums.suse.com/t/renaming-a-system-group/33134
**Category:** SUSE Multi Linux Manager
**Created:** [November 5, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/renaming-a-system-group/33134 "2018-11-05T12:36:08Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@bucks](https://forums.suse.com/u/bucks)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/renaming-a-system-group/33134/1 "2018-11-05T12:36:08Z")
Hi,
I’m looking for a way to rename a system group using spacecmd. I’ve found group details, delete, create and so on. But how can I simply rename a system group?
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### Author:  [@malcolmlewis](https://forums.suse.com/u/malcolmlewis)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/renaming-a-system-group/33134/2 "2018-11-05T15:47:41Z")
[QUOTE=bucks;55090]Hi,
I’m looking for a way to rename a system group using spacecmd. I’ve found group details, delete, create and so on. But how can I simply rename a system group?[/QUOTE]
Hi
AFAIK it can only be done via the web interface by editing the system group properties.
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### Author:  [@bucks](https://forums.suse.com/u/bucks)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/renaming-a-system-group/33134/3 "2018-11-05T16:23:42Z")
[QUOTE=malcolmlewis;55092]Hi
AFAIK it can only be done via the web interface by editing the system group properties.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your answer. I appreciate it a lot.
However, if this is really true, I seriously question the sanity if SUSE developers. I honestly hope this is a joke. I really do.
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### Author:  [@malcolmlewis](https://forums.suse.com/u/malcolmlewis)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/renaming-a-system-group/33134/4 "2018-11-05T16:43:13Z")
[QUOTE=bucks;55093]Thanks for your answer. I appreciate it a lot.
However, if this is really true, I seriously question the sanity if SUSE developers. I honestly hope this is a joke. I really do.[/QUOTE]
Hi
Perhaps an enhancement request upstream to the spacewalk developers…?
[https://github.com/spacewalkproject/spacewalk](https://github.com/spacewalkproject/spacewalk)
I only see the following for groups…
[https://www.suse.com/documentation/suse-manager-3/3.2/susemanager-advanced-topics/html/book.suma.advanced.topics/at.mgr.spacecmd.command.guide.html#at.spacecmd.group](https://www.suse.com/documentation/suse-manager-3/3.2/susemanager-advanced-topics/html/book.suma.advanced.topics/at.mgr.spacecmd.command.guide.html#at.spacecmd.group)
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### Author:  [@bucks](https://forums.suse.com/u/bucks)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/renaming-a-system-group/33134/5 "2018-11-05T16:54:04Z")
[QUOTE=malcolmlewis;55094]Hi
Perhaps an enhancement request upstream to the spacewalk developers…?
[https://github.com/spacewalkproject/spacewalk](https://github.com/spacewalkproject/spacewalk)[/QUOTE]
Well, yes, technically I could do this. However, if an enterprise solution provider did not think about implementing a simple rename command I doubt an enhancement request will fix it. Sorry, but something like this I would expect from some privately built experimental basement distro and not from an “Enterprise Server” that costs me thousands of bucks every year. This is ridiculous… and a shame for SUSE.
[QUOTE=malcolmlewis;55094]
I only see the following for groups…
[https://www.suse.com/documentation/suse-manager-3/3.2/susemanager-advanced-topics/html/book.suma.advanced.topics/at.mgr.spacecmd.command.guide.html#at.spacecmd.group](https://www.suse.com/documentation/suse-manager-3/3.2/susemanager-advanced-topics/html/book.suma.advanced.topics/at.mgr.spacecmd.command.guide.html#at.spacecmd.group)[/QUOTE]
Yes, exactly. And I cannot find any rename or move command.
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### Author:  [@kwk](https://forums.suse.com/u/kwk)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2018, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/renaming-a-system-group/33134/6 "2018-11-06T08:52:13Z")
[QUOTE=bucks;55097]Well, yes, technically I could do this. However, if an enterprise solution provider did not think about implementing a simple rename command I doubt an enhancement request will fix it. Sorry, but something like this I would expect from some privately built experimental basement distro and not from an “Enterprise Server” that costs me thousands of bucks every year. This is ridiculous… and a shame for SUSE.
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Bucks, behave yourself ! I will not tolerate this and your previous comment in this forum.
SUSE Manager is based on Spacewalk, which was recently forked as [www.uyuni-project.org](http://www.uyuni-project.org). This software is in use by thousands of organizations which, apparently, never saw the need to rename a system group.
If you paid for SUSE Manager, you can file a respective support request. It usually takes 4-6 weeks to ship such a change as a maintenance update.
If you did not pay, you can either ask for an enhancement by opening an issue on github ([https://github.com/uyuni-project/uyuni](https://github.com/uyuni-project/uyuni)) or contribute code via a respective pull request.
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### Author:  [@bucks](https://forums.suse.com/u/bucks)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2018, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/renaming-a-system-group/33134/7 "2018-11-06T09:04:56Z")
Our organization pays thousands of bucks every year. We are your customer. So maybe when it comes to behaving I could at least ask for software that actually is an enterprise software. Wouldn’t you agree? I try to stay polite. But from a customer view Q&A is not existent. And you might understand that I’m not willing to pay for beta software.
We have years of experience with SUSE support. So while I try to stay polite it is difficult at times.
And if an enterprise Linux developer like SUSE tells me that thousands of customers never saw a need to rename system groups, I honestly ask myself if I’m part of “candid camera”. And that was indeed a very polite statement of me.