# RIP: NetWare

**URL:** <https://forums.suse.com/t/rip-netware/25548>\
**Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\
**Created:** [May 8, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/rip-netware/25548 "2014-05-08T16:16:01Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/rip-netware/25548/21 "2014-05-11T04:24:45Z")

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cactusdata wrote:  
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> Thanks, I sincerely tried but I need help.  
> I go to:
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> [https://www.partnernetprogram.com/secure/program/partner\_use/novell.html](https://www.partnernetprogram.com/secure/program/partner_use/novell.html)[color=blue]
> 
> then pick Resources, Benefits and land here:
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> [https://www.partnernetprogram.com/program/benefits.html](https://www.partnernetprogram.com/program/benefits.html)[/color]

You don’t need to do that… from the first link, just scroll down the  
page to the partner use software order form. I believe that’s what you  
need. However, I’m not sure, but let’s not keep cluttering up the chat  
forum with the specifics on how to obtain Novell software under partner  
use. Please send me an e-mail at jmarton at novell dot com and I’ll  
get you in touch with the PartnerNet folks who can help you with this.

–  
Does this washcloth smell like chloroform?

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/rip-netware/25548/22 "2014-05-11T12:56:01Z")

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That’s very kind of you, I’ll do so.

However, the downloads seem to be present and active, it’s the license  
for running own business I can’t locate.

/gustav

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/rip-netware/25548/23 "2014-05-12T10:59:30Z")

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On 11.05.2014 11:56, cactusdata wrote:[color=blue]

> That’s very kind of you, I’ll do so.
> 
> However, the downloads seem to be present and active, it’s the license  
> for running own business I can’t locate.[/color]

There is no specific “different” license for that, it’s just paper.  
Which makes sense, cosidering that the majority of all Novell products  
(see OES or GW) are paper licensed anyways.

## CU,

Massimo Rosen  
Novell Knowledge Partner  
No emails please!  
[http://www.cfc-it.de](http://www.cfc-it.de)

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/rip-netware/25548/24 "2014-05-12T11:46:02Z")

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But it was you who falsely claimed “You are dead wrong, and have  
basically just publicy admitted you’re running your business on illegal  
microsoft software.” so I will need that paper to not again be accused  
to “run illegal Novell software”.

I don’t understand why it seems to be a “project” to locate and present  
the licenses we can use. Luckily, Joe has offered to take care of it  
which I am looking forward to.

/gustav

## – cactusdata

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/rip-netware/25548/25 "2014-05-12T15:10:41Z")

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cactusdata wrote:  
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> That’s very kind of you, I’ll do so.[/color]

E-mail sent. You should hear from the ParnerNet team soon. If you  
don’t hear from them within a couple of days please let me know.  
Thanks.

–  
Does this washcloth smell like chloroform?

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2014, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/rip-netware/25548/26 "2014-05-14T22:36:01Z")

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I just want to add that we moved our GroupWise from Netware to Linux in  
a Windows Virtual machine five months ago. I am not very impressed with  
Windows, the virtual instance for GW has crashed twice during this time  
(note I didn’t say GW crashed). We will be shutting down our last two  
Netware file servers to the same windows box at some point this  
year…I’m stalling as long as I can.

## – lanaleon

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2014, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/rip-netware/25548/27 "2014-05-15T11:08:38Z")

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On 14/05/2014 20:36, lanaleon wrote:[color=blue]

> I just want to add that we moved our GroupWise from Netware to Linux in  
> a Windows Virtual machine five months ago. I am not very impressed with  
> Windows, the virtual instance for GW has crashed twice during this time  
> (note I didn’t say GW crashed). We will be shutting down our last two  
> Netware file servers to the same windows box at some point this  
> year…I’m stalling as long as I can.[/color]

Only windows seems to work well under Hyperv. This may not be  
accidental. I take it there are political reasons why you can’t have a  
non-windows virtualization server or something?

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/rip-netware/25548/28 "2014-05-16T18:16:01Z")

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Netware and Novell were incredible back in the day. We still have a  
Netware 6.0 NPS 1.02 service running our web portal. I am looking for a  
modern simple Portal/CMS like Novell NPS to replace it since is not  
supported by Novell (for years), but it is extremely stable. I always  
treated my Netware boxes like appliances, they just worked with little  
to no maintenance required. The software the came with Netware was also  
top notch, and memory/CPU efficient. (netdrive, iFolder 2, NSS).

I have migrated most of my Netware servers to Linux OES but still have a  
few Netware boxes. The quality of Novell products is not as high as it  
was in the Netware days, from bad patches to bloaded client software,  
(and PITA software audits). I find the new stuff just OK, and nothing  
to sing about. (It smells like outsourcing development to the lowest  
bidder, common today)

My best wishes for Novell success, I wish there was some marketing of  
OES going on. And I hope they can get it to be like an appliance, like  
Netware, so a Linux Guru is not the only one who can administer it.  
Netware was run by a lot of not tech users, OES needs to be that simple.

-Marty-  
IDM,OES-Netware,OES-Linux, NPS, Filr, iFolder, netStorage

## – mmccaffe

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