# Sigh................

**URL:** <https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759>\
**Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\
**Created:** [June 19, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759 "2012-06-19T18:30:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![System1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/1 "2012-06-19T18:30:17Z")

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We’re almost done moving from nw65 to sles/oes. Only have 4 nw65 boxes  
left, and they should be gone in the next week or two.

Just removed edir from the server that was the CA, SLP, master replica  
and time server for my tree for the past 7-10 years…sigh

–  
Stevo

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/2 "2012-06-20T01:48:14Z")

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Understand the feeling. I just finished last Tuesday doing this for a  
small school campus. SLES/OES is nice. Unfortunately, now I’m looking  
for another job.

On 6/19/2012 11:30 AM, Stevo wrote:[color=blue]

> We’re almost done moving from nw65 to sles/oes. Only have 4 nw65 boxes  
> left, and they should be gone in the next week or two.
> 
> Just removed edir from the server that was the CA, SLP, master replica  
> and time server for my tree for the past 7-10 years…sigh  
> [/color]

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/3 "2012-06-20T01:54:30Z")

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Bob sounds like they ‘said’:  
[color=blue]

> Understand the feeling. I just finished last Tuesday doing this for  
> a small school campus. SLES/OES is nice. Unfortunately, now I’m  
> looking for another job.[/color]

So my response to Bob’s comment is…

Well that hoovers, hope you find something soon.

–  
Stevo

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**Author:** ![nop1983](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e19adc/32.png) [@nop1983](https://forums.suse.com/u/nop1983)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/4 "2012-06-20T11:49:24Z")

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Stevo wrote:  
[color=blue]

> We’re almost done moving from nw65 to sles/oes. Only have 4 nw65  
> boxes left, and they should be gone in the next week or two.
> 
> Just removed edir from the server that was the CA, SLP, master replica  
> and time server for my tree for the past 7-10  
> years…sigh[/color]

Same here… just at the end of the road of our nw65 environment,  
closing down sometime in the next month or so.

## –

Niels Poulsen

Novell Knowledge Partner

* * *

A TRUE RED DEVIL

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/5 "2012-06-26T22:59:41Z")

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> We’re almost done moving from nw65 to sles/oes. Only have 4 nw65 boxes[color=blue]  
> left, and they should be gone in the next week or two.[/color]

I haven’t begun the process but it is on the docket. Going through a major  
AIX/Oracle upgrade at the moment. Should be completed around September.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/6 "2012-06-27T00:07:37Z")

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GofBorg sounds like they ‘said’:  
[color=blue][color=green]

> > We’re almost done moving from nw65 to sles/oes. Only have 4 nw65  
> > boxes left, and they should be gone in the next week or two.[/color]
> 
> I haven’t begun the process but it is on the docket. Going through a  
> major AIX/Oracle upgrade at the moment. Should be completed around  
> September.[/color]

So my response to GofBorg’s comment is…

We are down to two nw65 servers. Just migrated data/email from one  
this last weekend, so it’s just sitting for now. Other one houses our  
old gwia, still trying to catch straggler devices using it to send  
email that have not been changed to the new gwia.

–  
Stevo

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/7 "2012-06-27T18:30:35Z")

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> We are down to two nw65 servers. Just migrated data/email from one[color=blue]  
> this last weekend, so it’s just sitting for now. Other one houses our  
> old gwia, still trying to catch straggler devices using it to send  
> email that have not been changed to the new gwia.[/color]

I have 2 as well. One is still our primary file store, the other is  
a VM that acts as a failover in case the main file store goes tango uniform.  
For our usage case there really is NO reason, zero, zip, nada to change it.  
I assume that someday there will be a serious client issue that will be a  
downer which is the only reason I am even pondering the move. In any case,  
I’ve waited this long I’m hoping SLES/OES whatever it’s called these days  
will be well sorted out by now to make a decent replacement. The whole  
OES thing doesn’t give me the warm fuzzies (still unsure of Novell’s  
committment to it) so I may replace it with SuSE and  
be done with it.

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**Author:** ![nop1983](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e19adc/32.png) [@nop1983](https://forums.suse.com/u/nop1983)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/8 "2012-06-28T09:29:16Z")

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Niels Poulsen wrote:  
[color=blue]

> Stevo wrote:  
> [color=green]
> 
> > We’re almost done moving from nw65 to sles/oes. Only have 4 nw65  
> > boxes left, and they should be gone in the next week or two.
> > 
> > Just removed edir from the server that was the CA, SLP, master  
> > replica and time server for my tree for the past 7-10  
> > years…sigh[/color]
> 
> Same here… just at the end of the road of our nw65 environment,  
> closing down sometime in the next month or so.[/color]

Well… we closed our servers… then 2 min. later the help desk was  
completely helpless since they for some reason still used the iManager  
to manage users, even though we use AD as our primary directory… Oh  
well now it’s up and running again 😉

## –

Niels Poulsen

Novell Knowledge Partner

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A TRUE RED DEVIL

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/9 "2012-06-28T18:31:55Z")

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Well, the last netware server is going away…

Kind of a sad day

–  
Stevo

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/10 "2012-06-28T18:35:29Z")

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On 6/28/2012 11:31 AM, Stevo wrote:[color=blue]

> Well, the last netware server is going away…
> 
> Kind of a sad day
> 
> [/color]

_pours beer on ground for passed homies_

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/11 "2012-06-28T20:01:51Z")

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JayZie sounds like they ‘said’:  
[color=blue]

> _pours beer on ground for passed homies_[/color]

So my response to JayZie’s comment is…

Thanks dude…

–  
Stevo

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/12 "2012-06-29T15:47:36Z")

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On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:30:35 GMT, GofBorg  
[GofBorg@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org](mailto:GofBorg@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org) wrote:  
[color=blue]

> I have 2 as well. One is still our primary file store, the other is  
> a VM that acts as a failover in case the main file store goes tango uniform.  
> For our usage case there really is NO reason, zero, zip, nada to change it.  
> I assume that someday there will be a serious client issue that will be a  
> downer which is the only reason I am even pondering the move. In any case,  
> I’ve waited this long I’m hoping SLES/OES whatever it’s called these days  
> will be well sorted out by now to make a decent replacement. The whole  
> OES thing doesn’t give me the warm fuzzies (still unsure of Novell’s  
> committment to it) so I may replace it with SuSE and  
> be done with it.[/color]

I’m liking OES 11 so far. Just started putting it into production.  
Netware 6.5 until now…so this is my first OES Linux experience. Two  
OES 11 servers running at the moment. By next week I should have all  
services moved off of my main nw server and I can redeploy the  
hardware as another OES 11 server.

Ken

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/13 "2012-06-29T16:43:39Z")

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KeN Etter sounds like they ‘said’:  
[color=blue]

> I’m liking OES 11 so far. Just started putting it into production.  
> Netware 6.5 until now…so this is my first OES Linux experience. Two  
> OES 11 servers running at the moment. By next week I should have all  
> services moved off of my main nw server and I can redeploy the  
> hardware as another OES 11 server.[/color]

So my response to KeN’s comment is…

I’m getting used to & liking OES linux. We’re a mix of oes2sp3 &  
oes11. Went w/ oes2 for many servers as some services would not  
migrate from nw65 to oes11. Plus we’re still running gw7, so some  
parts of that simply would not install on oes11.

–  
Stevo

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/14 "2012-06-29T17:17:33Z")

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On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:43:39 GMT, “Stevo” [steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net](mailto:steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net)  
wrote:  
[color=blue]

> I’m getting used to & liking OES linux. We’re a mix of oes2sp3 &  
> oes11. Went w/ oes2 for many servers as some services would not  
> migrate from nw65 to oes11. Plus we’re still running gw7, so some  
> parts of that simply would not install on oes11.[/color]

You need to get current GW. I like 8…but as soon as I finish my  
current server services migration, I’m going to use the hardware for a  
new GW2012 server.

Ken

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/15 "2012-06-29T18:01:37Z")

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[color=blue]

> You need to get current GW. I like 8…but as soon as I finish my  
> current server services migration, I’m going to use the hardware for a  
> new GW2012 server.
> 
> Ken  
> [/color]

I could be wrong, (what else is new?) but I think that GW 12 is  
the best release of GW since well… 6ish? But I haven’t used GW in a  
production environment in years so what do I know?

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/sigh/22759/16 "2012-06-29T18:25:14Z")

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KeN Etter sounds like they ‘said’:  
[color=blue]

> You need to get current GW. I like 8…but as soon as I finish my  
> current server services migration, I’m going to use the hardware for a  
> new GW2012 server.
> 
> Ken[/color]

So my response to KeN’s comment is…

That was part of the reason moving everything to oes linux, in the  
budget this fiscal year to move to gw2012.

–  
Stevo
