# SMT Client stop working after last update **URL:** \ **Category:** SLES Updates\ **Created:** [September 29, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/smt-client-stop-working-after-last-update/21999 "2011-09-29T13:16:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![System1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/smt-client-stop-working-after-last-update/21999/1 "2011-09-29T13:16:01Z")
After the last update of SMT, the clients are unable to get jobs from the server. The process smt-agent is blocked (the message is “Error: Cannot open Lock. Process still running?”), and the client receive the 404 error from smt server (object not found). In /var/log/apache2/error\_log i see the error Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl/5.10.0/SMT/JobQueue.pm line 276 Anyone has any suggestion? Thanks ## – mvisconti mvisconti’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=97561](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=97561) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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Same problem here as well! The agents ask for their referring job - everything is fine with the database as far as I can see - but the SMT server returns a HTTP-error 404 - Page not found - including the mentioned log entry regarding the variable. The major problem is that the agents to not finish their connection and the SMT server gets filled up with network connections in a FIN\_WAIT-state. Any news on this? Greetings from Germany Andreas ## – ollenburg ollenburg’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=10428](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=10428) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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Hi Andreas We don’t have a solution yet. I confirm that the SMT server gets filled up with network connections. Marco (from Italy) ## – mvisconti mvisconti’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=97561](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=97561) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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Same problem here, as a temporary fix we downgrade smt to 1.1.21 and lock the package (zypper in smt-1.1.21 && zypper al smt) but now we get a daily error from our update script: SCRIPT: opensuse.org-online\_update exited with RETURNCODE = 4. SCRIPT: output (stdout && stderr) follows Problem: patch:slesmtsp0-res-signingkeys-5162.noarch conflicts with smt.x86\_64 \< 1.1.22-0.2.1 provided by smt-1.1.21-0.2.1.x86\_64 Solution 1: do not keep smt-1.1.21-0.2.1.x86\_64 installed Solution 2: do not install patch:slesmtsp0-res-signingkeys-5162.noarch Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c] (c): c Any help would be appreciated. Best regards, Lars ## – lixner lixner’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=110760](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=110760) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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Ditto here. I’ve filed a bug report. [color=blue] > … > \_20-Product: SMT 1.1.22-0.2.1 > \_21-Defect: SMT agent queries to the server fail with a 404 response. > in the apache2 error log, seeing “Use of uninitialized value in > concatenation (.) or string at > /var/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl/5.10.0/SMT/Jobqueue.pm line 276.” > Consequently, the smt agents fail to disconnect, eventually filling > Apache’s connections to capacity. > \_22-Other\_Product: n/a > \_23-Steps: Have SMT running latest set of updates. > \_24-Other\_Scenarios: Didn’t try others > \_25-Environment\_Description: SLES-11-SP1 server; SLES-10-SP3, > SLES-11-SP1 and SLED-11-SP1 agents. > \_26-Reported: Production > \_27-Testing\_Environment: Didn’t try that > \_28-Fix: n/a > \_22-Additional: /var/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl/5.10.0/SMT/Jobqueue.pm line > 276 reads: > > return undef unless ( ‘’.$xmljob-\>guid() eq “$guid” ); > > \_29-Patch: 1.1.22-0.2.1 > > [/color] ## – MHGlenn MHGlenn’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=6822](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=6822) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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Hi MHGlenn;2145170 Wrote:[color=blue] > Ditto here. > I’ve filed a bug report.[/color] > Do you have a bug number ? I would like to follow up on that. > Thanks > //Andreas ## – ataschner ataschner’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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ataschner;2145325 Wrote:[color=blue] > Do you have a bug number ? I would like to follow up on that. > Thanks > //Andreas[/color] So far, all I’ve received is an automated response. :\ ## – MHGlenn MHGlenn’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=6822](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=6822) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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Hi I have created a bug (bnc#723583) for this urgent issue and a fix is in the works. Will update here once I know more. //Andreas ## – ataschner ataschner’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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JFYI the bug is still being investigated. It is not an easy one, but I will post here once we have a fix. //Andreas ## – ataschner ataschner’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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Hi Andreas, thanks for the update. Really looking forward for the solution. I guess there is no working workaround at the moment? Greetings Andreas ## – ollenburg ollenburg’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=10428](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=10428) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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Hi Andreas and all ollenburg;2148888 Wrote:[color=blue] > thanks for the update. Really looking forward for the solution. I guess > there is no working workaround at the moment? > [/color] > Workaround would be to downgrade smt to 1.1.21. > However that is not needed any more, since the problem is now fixed and > the patch is expected to be included in a on of the next maintenance > updates to the smt and smt-client packages. > Both the smt (and smt-support) packages on the SMT server as well as > the smt-client on the “managed” clients must be updated. For those in desparate need of a resolution, we have created a so-called mass PTF, which is a fully supported version of the packages in question. The packages are available here : smt and smt-client for SMT11: [https://you.novell.com/update/x86\_64/update/SUSE-SLES/11/PTF/f2cf38b50ed714a8409693060195b235/20111026](https://you.novell.com/update/x86_64/update/SUSE-SLES/11/PTF/f2cf38b50ed714a8409693060195b235/20111026) [https://you.novell.com/update/s390x/update/SUSE-SLES/11/PTF/f2cf38b50ed714a8409693060195b235/20111026](https://you.novell.com/update/s390x/update/SUSE-SLES/11/PTF/f2cf38b50ed714a8409693060195b235/20111026) [https://you.novell.com/update/i386/update/SUSE-SLES/11/PTF/f2cf38b50ed714a8409693060195b235/20111026](https://you.novell.com/update/i386/update/SUSE-SLES/11/PTF/f2cf38b50ed714a8409693060195b235/20111026) smt-client for SLES11 SP1: [https://you.novell.com/update/x86\_64/update/SUSE-SLES/11/PTF/f2cf38b50ed714a8409693060195b235/20111026-1](https://you.novell.com/update/x86_64/update/SUSE-SLES/11/PTF/f2cf38b50ed714a8409693060195b235/20111026-1) [https://you.novell.com/update/s390x/update/SUSE-SLES/11/PTF/f2cf38b50ed714a8409693060195b235/20111026-1](https://you.novell.com/update/s390x/update/SUSE-SLES/11/PTF/f2cf38b50ed714a8409693060195b235/20111026-1) [https://you.novell.com/update/i386/update/SUSE-SLES/11/PTF/f2cf38b50ed714a8409693060195b235/20111026-1](https://you.novell.com/update/i386/update/SUSE-SLES/11/PTF/f2cf38b50ed714a8409693060195b235/20111026-1) Please be sure to take the smt-client (smt-client-0.0.14-0.3.1.3604.0.PTF.723901) from the latter block if you are running SLE11SP1. The smt-client-0.0.13-0.1.1.3573.1.PTF.723901 package in the SMT directory is built only to comply with versioning policies. //Andreas (T) ## – ataschner ataschner’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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Many thanks for the support. Marco ## – mvisconti mvisconti’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=97561](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=97561) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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I await said maintenance update with both bated breath and overflowing mailboxes. Any ETA? Thanks. ## – MHGlenn MHGlenn’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=6822](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=6822) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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Hi MHGlenn;2149712 Wrote:[color=blue] > I await said maintenance update with both bated breath and overflowing > mailboxes. Any ETA? > [/color] > Why are you awaiting the maintenance update when a PTF is available ? > A Problem Temporary Fix has only undergone limited testing (no QA like > maintenance updates), but is fully supported until the patch(es) it > contains is/are included in a maintenance update. > //Andreas ## – ataschner ataschner’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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Hi, great news. Thanks. I installed the server and client on the SMT server and it works. BUT then I installed the SMT-client on a managed server (sles11sp1 32bit) and when running “smt-agent” I got this: “Can’t locate XML/XPath.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0/i586-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site\_perl/5.10.0/i586-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site\_perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl/5.10.0/i586-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl/5.10.0/SMT/Agent/RestXML.pm line 14. BEGIN failed–compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl/5.10.0/SMT/Agent/RestXML.pm line 14. Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/smt-agent line 7. BEGIN failed–compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/smt-agent line 7.” Uninstalling and installing the prior version there is no error. Any ideas? Greetings Andreas ## – ollenburg ollenburg’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=10428](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=10428) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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When installing perl-XML-XPath-1.13-74.15 even the latest SMT-client ist working. Did I miss any prereqs? ## – ollenburg ollenburg’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=10428](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=10428) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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Hi, Got the same error above: Can’t locate XML/XPath.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0/x86\_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site\_perl/5.10.0/x86\_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site\_perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl/5.10.0/x86\_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl/5.10.0/SMT/Agent/RestXML.pm line 14. BEGIN failed–compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl/5.10.0/SMT/Agent/RestXML.pm line 14. Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/smt-agent line 7. BEGIN failed–compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/smt-agent line 7. Installed perl-XML-XPath # zypper in perl-XML-XPath Got a new error when running smt-agent: Error: Unable to request next job : Can’t connect to puppy.it.hb.se:443 (certificate verify failed) You can disable hostname check by setting environment variable PERL\_LWP\_SSL\_VERIFY\_HOSTNAME=0 LWP::Protocol::https::Socket: SSL connect attempt failed with unknown errorerror:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3\_GET\_SERVER\_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor\_perl/5.10.0/LWP/Protocol/http.pm line 57. Any ideas? //Per-Olof Axelsson ## – lollo10 lollo10’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=66069](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=66069) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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ollenburg;2150130 Wrote:[color=blue] > When installing perl-XML-XPath-1.13-74.15 even the latest SMT-client ist > working. Did I miss any prereqs?[/color] > I have no idea why that one is not pulled in automatically. > But it should be installed to resolve the problems reported here. > It has not been observed in any of our labs and a number of customers > have reported nothing but success with the PTF. > //Andreas ## – ataschner ataschner’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758) ---
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Hi ollenburg;2150130 Wrote:[color=blue] > When installing perl-XML-XPath-1.13-74.15 even the latest SMT-client ist > working. Did I miss any prereqs?[/color] > This is/was caused by the rare situation, where a patch introduces a > new dependency/pre-req. In this case something unfortunately went wrong > in the patch creation/build process, so the dependency on perl-XML-XPath > did not make it into the PTF ☹ > In the meantime, the updated SMT client (including the perl-XML-XPath > dependency) has been released publicly : The packages can be found ‘here’ ([http://download.novell.com/patch/finder/#familyId=7261&productId=26322&dateRange=-1&startDate=11/02/2011&endDate=11/03/2011&priority=&distribution=&architecture=&keywords=smt-client](http://download.novell.com/patch/finder/#familyId=7261&productId=26322&dateRange=-1&startDate=11/02/2011&endDate=11/03/2011&priority=&distribution=&architecture=&keywords=smt-client)). //Andreas ## – ataschner ataschner’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=7706) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=445758)