# Stupid Windows 10
**URL:** https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056
**Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence
**Created:** [November 29, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056 "2016-11-29T17:09:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
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### Author:  [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/1 "2016-11-29T17:09:44Z")
I think it might be the latest Insider build, but I can’t complete the
download of anything that needs SSL, without getting a network error.
I’ve completely removed my antivirus, I’ve tried a different NIC, I
think I’m going to have to go back to square one and reinstall, unless
anyone’s got any ideas…
–
Shaun Pond
in my “day job” I work for ENGL; our aim is to make Windows deployment
easy
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### Author:  [@malcolmlewis](https://forums.suse.com/u/malcolmlewis)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/2 "2016-11-29T17:22:28Z")
> [@](#):
>
> On Tue 29 Nov 2016 03:09:44 PM CST, Shaun Pond wrote:
>
> I think it might be the latest Insider build, but I can’t complete the
> download of anything that needs SSL, without getting a network error.
> I’ve completely removed my antivirus, I’ve tried a different NIC, I
> think I’m going to have to go back to square one and reinstall, unless
> anyone’s got any ideas…
Hi
Didn’t they turn of sha1 stuff?
Check timezone and time as well…
Maybe [https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd565655(v=vs.85).aspx](https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd565655%28v=vs.85%29.aspx)
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### Author:  [@kgroneman](https://forums.suse.com/u/kgroneman)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/3 "2016-11-29T17:22:58Z")
Hey Shaun Pond:
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> our aim is to make Windows deployment easy[/color]
So reinstalling shouldn’t be a big deal, right?..
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Kim - 11/29/2016 8:22:32 AM
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/4 "2016-11-29T17:30:44Z")
Malcolmlewis,
I don’t have any issues accessing https sites, just downloading files:
I see tls 1.2 alerts in wireshark but of course they’re encrypted…
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Shaun Pond
in my “day job” I work for ENGL; our aim is to make Windows deployment
easy
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/5 "2016-11-29T17:31:29Z")
Kgroneman,
if it wasn’t my secondary machine, sure ;0 Putting base windows on is
not trouble - but reinstalling my games is a pain given the number of
activation codes… 😉
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Shaun Pond
in my “day job” I work for ENGL; our aim is to make Windows deployment
easy
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/6 "2016-11-29T21:18:36Z")
Shaun Pond sounds like they ‘said’:
[color=blue]
> I think it might be the latest Insider build, but I can’t complete
> the download of anything that needs SSL, without getting a network
> error. I’ve completely removed my antivirus, I’ve tried a different
> NIC, I think I’m going to have to go back to square one and
> reinstall, unless anyone’s got any ideas…[/color]
So my response to Shaun’s comment is…
You have the dns cache service enabled? We ran into weird issues
(mainly with edge though) that didn’t work right with the dns cache
disabled.
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Stevo
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/7 "2016-11-29T21:28:27Z")
Stevo,
yep, enabled…
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Shaun Pond
in my “day job” I work for ENGL; our aim is to make Windows deployment
easy
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/8 "2016-11-29T21:32:10Z")
Stevo,
what happens is that files start to download, but fail partway through
- my feeling is that there’s a TLS problem when it tries to update the
encryption…
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Shaun Pond
in my “day job” I work for ENGL; our aim is to make Windows deployment
easy
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/9 "2016-11-29T21:48:39Z")
Shaun,
it appears to be right at the end, maybe when the connection is closed?
there’s no problem in safe mode…
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Shaun Pond
in my “day job” I work for ENGL; our aim is to make Windows deployment
easy
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/10 "2016-11-29T22:32:35Z")
Shaun Pond sounds like they ‘said’:
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> Shaun,
>
> it appears to be right at the end, maybe when the connection is
> closed? there’s no problem in safe mode…[/color]
So my response to Shaun’s comment is…
Weird, we have a similar problem when trying to ftp from one particular
site. All other sites work fine and we can ftp from this site from
outside our firewall.
Wonder if the checksum is causing some error or something.
–
Stevo
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/11 "2016-11-29T23:29:23Z")
Am 29.11.2016 um 20:48 schrieb Shaun Pond:[color=blue]
> Shaun,
>
> it appears to be right at the end, maybe when the connection is closed?
> there’s no problem in safe mode…
> [/color]
> Sounds like some third party \*networking related( software is interfering…
## CU,
Massimo Rosen
Micro Focus Knowledge Partner
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/12 "2016-11-29T23:49:46Z")
Massimo,
I’d suspected Kaspersky, but I’ve removed it, used their cleanup
utility, then went through the registry, cleaning out “kaspersky”
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Shaun Pond
in my “day job” I work for ENGL; our aim is to make Windows deployment
easy
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2016, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/13 "2016-11-30T00:09:28Z")
Am 29.11.2016 um 22:49 schrieb Shaun Pond:[color=blue]
> Massimo,
>
> I’d suspected Kaspersky, but I’ve removed it, used their cleanup
> utility, then went through the registry, cleaning out “kaspersky”[/color]
Zesm?
## CU,
Massimo Rosen
Micro Focus Knowledge Partner
No emails please!
[http://www.cfc-it.de](http://www.cfc-it.de)
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/14 "2016-11-30T12:12:11Z")
Massimo,
I disabled ZESM, no difference - not a silly suggestion though! 🙂
You’ve probably dabbled in this part of the registry more than I have,
where should I take a look?
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Shaun Pond
in my “day job” I work for ENGL; our aim is to make Windows deployment
easy
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/15 "2016-12-01T19:09:27Z")
in the end I reinstalled Windows - quicker in the long run
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Shaun Pond
in my “day job” I work for ENGL; our aim is to make Windows deployment
easy
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2017, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/16 "2017-03-02T05:46:01Z")
I think a bucket or two of sheep food, several truck loads of
grasshopper food, a boatload of windoze 10 installation disks and at
least a pint to two of a beverage that you start spelling with the
letter “G” would improve the process.
wash, rinse repeat
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### Author:  [@ketter](https://forums.suse.com/u/ketter)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/stupid-windows-10/29056/17 "2017-03-02T15:42:24Z")
On Thu, 02 Mar 2017 03:46:01 GMT, Sewermonger
[Sewermonger@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com](mailto:Sewermonger@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com) wrote:
[color=blue]
> I think a bucket or two of sheep food, several truck loads of
> grasshopper food, a boatload of windoze 10 installation disks and at
> least a pint to two of a beverage that you start spelling with the
> letter “G” would improve the process.
>
> wash, rinse repeat[/color]
Been a long time! How you doing?
Yep, Windows 10 is a pain. Fortunately still running 7 at work. But
I have one 10 box at home that I use occasionally to try to get
familiar with it. Don’t like it though.
–
Ken
Knowledge Partner
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