# SuSe Openstack using AWS free tier **URL:** \ **Category:** Amazon-EC2\ **Created:** [November 17, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-openstack-using-aws-free-tier/30567 "2017-11-17T22:14:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kevinmayres](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@kevinmayres](https://forums.suse.com/u/kevinmayres)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-openstack-using-aws-free-tier/30567/1 "2017-11-17T22:14:36Z")
My goal is to throw Openstack up on AWS using the free tier and without paying for software initially, as an excercise. I realize there are some special network tweeks which need to occur. My plan is to follow the [openstack.org](http://openstack.org) community install docs for SuSe. My biggest concern is that the free tier AMI has 1GB ram and I doubt that’s sufficient to run Openstack services. I assume that I would really not be able to leverage the SuSe Openstack Cloud software or SuSe Manager software. Anyone have any thoughts? Appreciated! Kevin ---
**Author:** ![ab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@ab1](https://forums.suse.com/u/ab1)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-openstack-using-aws-free-tier/30567/2 "2017-11-17T23:41:08Z")
Getting a whole cloud into there is not possible, at all. You can potentially run the training SUSE OpenStack Cloud (SOC) environment on a laptop with sixteen (16) GiB RAM, but you would be hard-pressed to go smaller and do the full training. Getting all of the components of just those training going probably takes eight (8) GiBs, at least. The free tier is great, but it is not meant for running whole clouds. – Good luck. If you find this post helpful and are logged into the web interface, show your appreciation and click on the star below. If you want to send me a private message, please let me know in the forum as I do not use the web interface often. ---
**Author:** ![smflood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/smflood/32/10576_2.png) [@smflood](https://forums.suse.com/u/smflood)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-openstack-using-aws-free-tier/30567/3 "2017-11-17T23:44:31Z")
kevinmayres Wrote in message: [color=blue] > My goal is to throw Openstack up on AWS using the free tier and without > paying for software initially, as an excercise. > I realize there are some special network tweeks which need to occur. My > plan is to follow the [openstack.org](http://openstack.org) community install docs for SuSe. > My biggest concern is that the free tier AMI has 1GB ram and I doubt > that’s sufficient to run Openstack services. > I assume that I would really not be able to leverage the SuSe Openstack > Cloud software or SuSe Manager software. Anyone have any thoughts? > Appreciated![/color] Whilst I don’t have any experience of installing OpenStack on AWS I have installed SUSE OpenStack Cloud in a virtual environment. Firstly I will note that the SUSE install docs on [openstack.org](http://openstack.org) cover installing third-party OpenStack packages (from the Open Build Service) on openSUSE Leap 42.2 and SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) 12 SP1 or SP2. This is not the same as installing SUSE OpenStack Cloud and does not use SUSE Manager. My experience with SUSE OpenStack Cloud says that 1GB of RAM is not sufficient - whilst the docs suggest requiring a lot more you can get away with 1.25GB. Do you have a machine available with 16GB of RAM? If so, I’d set up a virtual environment on that rather than using AWS. Note there is a forum dedicated to SUSE OpenStack Cloud @ [https://forums.suse.com/forumdisplay.php?65-SUSE-OpenStack-Cloud](https://forums.suse.com/forumdisplay.php?65-SUSE-OpenStack-Cloud) ## HTH. Simon Flood SUSE Knowledge Partner ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- [http://usenet.sinaapp.com/](http://usenet.sinaapp.com/) ---
**Author:** ![rjschwei](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/rjschwei/32/8937_2.png) [@rjschwei](https://forums.suse.com/u/rjschwei)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-openstack-using-aws-free-tier/30567/4 "2017-11-18T13:42:33Z")
Since the other answers, while valid do not address the underlying issue I’ll chime in. AWS does not support nested virtualization which is what you would need to run SOC in another cloud environment. Meaning your problem is not the instance size but one of technology. To run SOC in a cloud environment you need a cloud vendor that provides access to the hardware or that supports nested virtualization. ---
**Author:** ![kevinmayres](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@kevinmayres](https://forums.suse.com/u/kevinmayres)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-openstack-using-aws-free-tier/30567/5 "2017-11-27T21:17:00Z")
Thanks all. Yes, this is all clear. My question was also poorly stated but I appreciate the responses.