# SuSE-release deprecated - request

**URL:** <https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-release-deprecated-request/28673>\
**Category:** SLES Configure-Administer\
**Created:** [September 20, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-release-deprecated-request/28673 "2016-09-20T17:19:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![cisaksen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@cisaksen](https://forums.suse.com/u/cisaksen)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-release-deprecated-request/28673/1 "2016-09-20T17:19:32Z")

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I would ask that with /etc/SuSE-release being deprecated and replaced by /etc/os-release that it contain the service pack level.

/etc/SuSE-release has VERSION & PATCHLEVEL

/etc/os-release only seems to have VERSION

Please add SERVICEPACK or PATCHLEVEL

Thank you

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**Author:** ![smflood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/smflood/32/10576_2.png) [@smflood](https://forums.suse.com/u/smflood)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-release-deprecated-request/28673/2 "2016-09-20T17:47:49Z")

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On 20/09/16 15:24, cisaksen wrote:  
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> I would ask that with /etc/SuSE-release being deprecated and replaced by  
> /etc/os-release that it contain the service pack level.
> 
> /etc/SuSE-release has VERSION & PATCHLEVEL
> 
> /etc/os-release only seems to have VERSION
> 
> Please add SERVICEPACK or PATCHLEVEL[/color]

At least with SLES12 SP1, VERSION in /etc/os-release includes the  
service pack:

NAME=“SLES”  
VERSION=“12-SP1”  
VERSION\_ID=“12.1”  
PRETTY\_NAME=“SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP1”  
ID=“sles”  
ANSI\_COLOR=“0;32”  
CPE\_NAME=“cpe:/o:suse:sles:12:sp1”

There’s actually four places where SP1 is indicated.

## HTH.

Simon  
SUSE Knowledge Partner

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**Author:** ![malcolmlewis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/malcolmlewis/32/11375_2.png) [@malcolmlewis](https://forums.suse.com/u/malcolmlewis)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-release-deprecated-request/28673/3 "2016-09-20T17:54:59Z")

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Hi  
Why not use VERSION\_ID?

The os-release file info is controlled by the Freedesktop folks, if you really want something added, best to raise a bug there?  
[https://bugzilla.freedesktop.org/](https://bugzilla.freedesktop.org/)

Else these are the current options available;  
[https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/os-release.html](https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/os-release.html)

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**Author:** ![cisaksen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@cisaksen](https://forums.suse.com/u/cisaksen)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-release-deprecated-request/28673/4 "2016-09-21T20:22:15Z")

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os-relase VERSION-ID on SP0 doesn’t exist- seems like a lot of these little things are being left out of SP0 lately. php7-devel isn’t there either but exist in SP1.

Anyway, the reason for this request was I wrote a script for adding salt-minions using the SUMA quick start guide as a blueprint. So i was trying to determine the SP level to add the appropriate repository per the instructions. Will VERSION-ID move to 12.2 for SP2 and so on ?

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**Author:** ![malcolmlewis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/malcolmlewis/32/11375_2.png) [@malcolmlewis](https://forums.suse.com/u/malcolmlewis)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-release-deprecated-request/28673/5 "2016-09-21T20:37:24Z")

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[QUOTE=cisaksen;34415]os-relase VERSION-ID on SP0 doesn’t exist- seems like a lot of these little things are being left out of SP0 lately. php7-devel isn’t there either but exist in SP1.

Anyway, the reason for this request was I wrote a script for adding salt-minions using the SUMA quick start guide as a blueprint. So i was trying to determine the SP level to add the appropriate repository per the instructions. Will VERSION-ID move to 12.2 for SP2 and so on ?[/QUOTE]  
Hi  
Well the release model changed with SP1 to break out into modules, SP0 is out of general support since June, unless you have LTSS;  
[https://www.suse.com/lifecycle/](https://www.suse.com/lifecycle/)

Yes, the VERSION\_ID will change;

From SLED 12 SP2 RC2;

```auto
cat /etc/os-release 
NAME="SLED"
VERSION="12-SP2"
VERSION_ID="12.2"
PRETTY_NAME="SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 SP2"
ID="sled"
ANSI_COLOR="0;32"
CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:suse:sled:12:sp2"

lsb-release -a

LSB Version:	n/a
Distributor ID:	SUSE
Description:	SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 SP2
Release:	12.2
Codename:	n/a
```

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**Author:** ![cisaksen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@cisaksen](https://forums.suse.com/u/cisaksen)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-release-deprecated-request/28673/6 "2016-09-22T00:20:15Z")

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I can’t believe what I was reading on the lifecycle page. 6 months of support for sp1 after sp2 is released - That is a totally unrealistic time frame for any IT shop to test and deploy a SP for an OS. What are they thinking?

I can’t believe SP0 is no longer supported. I thought Microsoft was bad this is just plain crazy. Might have to start looking at other distros. ☹ I was wondering why I wasn’t seeing too many SPO patches lately. Now I know. - Not Happy

No way to keep up.

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**Author:** ![smflood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/smflood/32/10576_2.png) [@smflood](https://forums.suse.com/u/smflood)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-release-deprecated-request/28673/7 "2016-09-22T13:01:10Z")

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On 21/09/16 22:24, cisaksen wrote:  
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> I can’t believe what I was reading on the lifecycle page. 6 months of  
> support for sp1 after sp2 is released - That is a totally unrealistic  
> time frame for any IT shop to test and deploy a SP for an OS. What are  
> they thinking?
> 
> I can’t believe SP0 is no longer supported. I thought Microsoft was bad  
> this is just plain crazy. Might have to start looking at other distros.  
> ☹ I was wondering why I wasn’t seeing too many SPO patches lately.  
> Now I know. - Not Happy
> 
> No way to keep up.[/color]

Six months support of an older Service Pack when the next one has been  
released has been SUSE/Micro Focus/Novell’s support policy for as long  
as I can recall and it’s noted @  
[https://www.suse.com/support/policy.html](https://www.suse.com/support/policy.html) (and on Novell’s site prior to  
that).

If you want longer support then you can purchase Long Term Service pack  
Support.

## HTH.

Simon  
SUSE Knowledge Partner

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**Author:** ![cisaksen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@cisaksen](https://forums.suse.com/u/cisaksen)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-release-deprecated-request/28673/8 "2016-09-22T16:44:33Z")

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Well SLES 11SP3 for vmware just ended in Aug. So an older version of SLES is supported longer than the the newer version. There is something messed up with that. That and SLES 11 SP4 is still supported. This support cycle makes no sense. Well it does from a money making stand point.

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**Author:** ![smflood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/smflood/32/10576_2.png) [@smflood](https://forums.suse.com/u/smflood)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/suse-release-deprecated-request/28673/9 "2016-09-22T17:54:39Z")

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On 22/09/16 14:54, cisaksen wrote:  
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> Well SLES 11SP3 for vmware just ended in Aug. So an older version of  
> SLES is supported longer than the the newer version. There is something  
> messed up with that. That and SLES 11 SP4 is still supported. This  
> support cycle makes no sense. Well it does from a money making stand  
> point.[/color]

The first point of contact for SLES for VMware was VMware not SUSE so  
VMware were free to set their own support conditions. In July 2014  
VMware stopped selling SLES for VMware and support ended in August this  
year.

Interestingly I see that on VMware’s SLES for VMware product page[1] it  
includes the following FAQ:

–begin–  
Can customers continue to get updates for SLES for VMware after EoA?

Customers who are running SLES for VMware 11, SP3 will continue to  
receive patches and updates for SLES for VMware 11 SP 3 for 6 months  
after the release of SLES 11, SP4. To continue receiving patches and  
updates for SLES for VMware 11, SP3 after SLES 11, SP4 is released  
customers will need to purchase Long Term Service Pack Support.  
—end—

which tied with SUSE’s support lifecycle[2] for SLES11 suggests that no  
patches/updates for SLES11 SP3 for VMware would be available from 15  
January 2016, 6 months after the release of SLES11 SP4 on 15 July 2015,  
which seems to conflict slightly with VMware’s end of support date.

HTH.

## [1] [http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/sles-for-vmware.html](http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/sles-for-vmware.html) [2] [https://www.suse.com/lifecycle/](https://www.suse.com/lifecycle/)

Simon  
SUSE Knowledge Partner

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