# Toner Survey

**URL:** <https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124>\
**Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\
**Created:** [January 12, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124 "2012-01-12T11:21:44Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124/1 "2012-01-12T11:21:44Z")

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Do you use the manufacturer’s original toners or cheaper ones?

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124/2 "2012-01-12T15:36:01Z")

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Manufacturer’s

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124/3 "2012-01-12T15:58:50Z")

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Arthur wrote:  
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> Do you use the manufacturer’s original toners or cheaper ones?[/color]

When it was my decision, I always went with manufacturer ones.

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Does this washcloth smell like chloroform?

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124/4 "2012-01-12T16:46:21Z")

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manufacturer’s.

1. They just work better. We have tested several aftermarket cart’s and  
no matter the claims, there were always problems.

2. We carry printer maintenance. Its cheap and worth it (in our eyes) to  
be able to make a service call and have a dude show up with parts. The  
maintenance company prefers manufacture cartridges. They also claim  
there is less trouble with OE then aftermarket/refills.

On 1/12/2012 3:21 AM, Arthur wrote:[color=blue]

> Do you use the manufacturer’s original toners or cheaper ones?[/color]

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124/5 "2012-01-12T18:27:01Z")

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Manufacturer’s - we some time ago tried others, but they never  
delivered what they claimed. Further on ower higher volume printers we  
have maintenance contracts, which require OEM toners - but overall they  
are the cheapest if you calcuate costs per page.

Only at home with some older HP inkjets I use alternate products, but  
only new cartridges from other brands, never refilled.

–  
W. Prindl

Arthur wrote:  
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> Do you use the manufacturer’s original toners or cheaper ones?[/color]

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124/6 "2012-01-12T18:29:58Z")

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Guess I’m the lone dissenter.

I use a mix of remanufactured and OEM.  
As far as remanufactured goes, there are proportionately  
more problems BUT all of them are guranteed to work so if  
it doesn’t, back it goes. We keep three for each printer in  
stock. It has happened once that all three on the shelf were bad!  
That remanufacturer got fired.

Anywho, as the price we get is almost half of OEM, we deal with  
the issues they cause. Maybe you don’t have the time for it, but  
maybe you do. Definitely all remanufacturers are NOT created equal.

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124/7 "2012-01-12T19:41:42Z")

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Arthur,[color=blue]

> Do you use the manufacturer’s original toners or cheaper ones?[/color]

Original

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Anders Gustafsson (NKP)  
The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124/8 "2012-01-12T20:49:56Z")

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When the CPA firm I worked for purchased the original HP LaserJet in the  
1980s, they bought new HP cartridges and had them refilled twice. At the  
time, that was the recommendation due to limitations on the drum.

I noticed that by the time you were using the twice-refilled cartridge, the  
characters and lines drawn by the printer were “fatter” than with a new  
cartridge.

Today, the better remanufacturers replace the drum when they become worn,  
and refilled cartridges can be very good.

Having said that, I buy new OEM cartridges on eBay. I search for them well  
ahead of when I will actually need them, and look for really good prices.  
Although the prices are usually pretty good, even bargain purchases of OEM  
cartridges cost more than remanufactured.

-Bob Carroll

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> Do you use the manufacturer’s original toners or cheaper ones?[/color]

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124/9 "2012-01-13T11:26:01Z")

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Have been down the refill and OEM route previously, but would always  
choose the manufacturers cartridges these days due the high failure rate  
we saw via several alternative suppliers.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124/10 "2012-01-13T17:44:51Z")

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On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:29:58 +0000, GofBorg wrote:  
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> Guess I’m the lone dissenter.
> 
> I use a mix of remanufactured and OEM. As far as remanufactured goes,  
> there are proportionately more problems BUT all of them are guranteed to  
> work so if it doesn’t, back it goes. We keep three for each printer in  
> stock. It has happened once that all three on the shelf were bad! That  
> remanufacturer got fired.[/color]

Us too. We have been testing remanufactured cartridges from different  
sources for a few years now and found all but one were no good. The  
source we are working with now has never had a failure.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124/11 "2012-01-20T06:16:01Z")

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cheapies for me defenitely  
just a cheapo 100 buck laser printer, the manufacturer carts cost  
almost as much as a whole new printer compared to 30 bucks on evilbay  
for a cheapo one  
for what I use it at home for I can’t tell the difference

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124/12 "2012-01-20T18:11:16Z")

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> cheapies for me defenitely[color=blue]  
> just a cheapo 100 buck laser printer, the manufacturer carts cost  
> almost as much as a whole new printer compared to 30 bucks on evilbay  
> for a cheapo one  
> for what I use it at home for I can’t tell the difference[/color]

For home use it is definitely a no-brainer. Problems show up more readily  
with higher volume page counts.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/toner-survey/22124/13 "2012-03-24T01:16:01Z")

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I use the manufacturer brand - in both of my printers: Minolta 2530DL  
Color Laser and Cannon Pixma color inkjet printer  
The Minolta have a 4 cartridge system (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and 1  
Black drum) system, the Cannon has only 2 cartridge system (1 black and  
1 tri-color) Â IÂve seen with other ÂcheapiesÂ that I have to clean the  
interior of the printer more often because of leakage from the  
remanufactured cartridges and drums for the Minolta.

Leroy Joseph  
Visual Click Software  
(eDirectory Management and Reporting)  
‘eDirectory Management and Reporting | DSRAZOR for eDirectory’  
([http://www.visualclick.com/content/dsrazor-for-edirectory.htm](http://www.visualclick.com/content/dsrazor-for-edirectory.htm))

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