# Users vs Admins, again.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\ **Created:** [November 28, 2012, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/users-vs-admins-again/23347 "2012-11-28T09:23:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![System1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/users-vs-admins-again/23347/1 "2012-11-28T09:23:20Z")
I have seen ballpark figures of 1:100, but I know of installations where it is more like 1:1000 or 1:2000, if they have taken full advantage of stuff like ZCM etc. What are your numbers and please note if you count positions of a beancounter charagter (CIO) as “admins” 🙂 – Anders Gustafsson (NKP) The Aaland Islands (N60 E20) Have an idea for a product enhancement? Please visit: [http://www.novell.com/rms](http://www.novell.com/rms) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/users-vs-admins-again/23347/2 "2012-11-28T16:43:14Z")
Anders Gustafsson sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > I have seen ballpark figures of 1:100, but I know of installations > where it is more like 1:1000 or 1:2000, if they have taken full > advantage of stuff like ZCM etc. > > What are your numbers and please note if you count positions of a > beancounter charagter (CIO) as “admins” :)[/color] So my response to Anders’s comment is… Well we have a bunch of different apps that are administered by diff people in our IT dept, but for the core NOS, file access, etc, we are running around 1 to just over 200, 1 to over 300 if you consider the 3rd ‘admin’ that won’t do much w/ our directory stuff cuz he “doesn’t want to screw anything up”. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/users-vs-admins-again/23347/3 "2012-11-28T17:45:27Z")
Thanks – Anders Gustafsson (NKP) The Aaland Islands (N60 E20) Have an idea for a product enhancement? Please visit: [http://www.novell.com/rms](http://www.novell.com/rms) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/users-vs-admins-again/23347/4 "2012-11-28T20:39:29Z")
On 11/28/2012 1:23 AM, Anders Gustafsson wrote:[color=blue] > I have seen ballpark figures of 1:100, but I know of installations > where it is more like 1:1000 or 1:2000, if they have taken full > advantage of stuff like ZCM etc. > > What are your numbers and please note if you count positions of a > beancounter charagter (CIO) as “admins” 🙂 > [/color] > 1:150 here - covering everything - servers, wkstns, apps, etc ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/users-vs-admins-again/23347/5 "2012-11-30T11:16:02Z")
~ 1:700 users 1:270 workstations Thomas ## – thsundel thsundel’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=128](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=128) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=462004](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=462004) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/users-vs-admins-again/23347/6 "2012-11-30T11:24:52Z")
Thsundel,[color=blue] > 1:700 users > 1:270 workstations[/color] Thanks and that is an environment where ZCM is heavily utilised. – Anders Gustafsson (NKP) The Aaland Islands (N60 E20) Have an idea for a product enhancement? Please visit: [http://www.novell.com/rms](http://www.novell.com/rms) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/users-vs-admins-again/23347/7 "2012-12-04T22:26:01Z")
2:150 …grrr I have to add 10 more characters ## – lanaleon lanaleon’s Profile: [http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=16538](http://forums.novell.com/member.php?userid=16538) View this thread: [http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=462004](http://forums.novell.com/showthread.php?t=462004) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/users-vs-admins-again/23347/8 "2012-12-12T15:57:23Z")
Hi. [color=blue] > 2:150 …grrr I have to add 10 more characters[/color] So are you heading for 200000000000:150, or 2: 15000000000000? ;-)) Regards, Rudi.