# UTC and localtime

**URL:** https://forums.suse.com/t/utc-and-localtime/22691
**Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence
**Created:** [May 30, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/utc-and-localtime/22691 "2012-05-30T23:26:01Z")
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#### Post date: [May 30, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/utc-and-localtime/22691/1 "2012-05-30T23:26:01Z")

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I’m new here, so I don’t quite know where I should post this. If this is  
not the proper forum, please excuse my ignorance.  
I’m running openSuSE 11.1, and, no matter what I try, the times my  
system shows me for UTC and localtime are reversed. My TZ is  
America/New\_York, but when I enter hwclock --utc, I get a time four  
hours before my local time, instead of four hours ahead. I can set UTC  
or set local time and the result is the same. I tried editing  
/etc/sysconfig/clock so that HWCLOCK is -u. Makes no difference. I  
tried HWCLOCK =“–localtime”, same thing. If there is anyone out there  
who can tell me how to correct this, I’d appreciate it. I’m studying for  
my CompTIA Linux+ cert and don’t want to skip section of my textbook  
without being able to correct the problem.  
Thanks, Mike

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#### Post date: [May 30, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/utc-and-localtime/22691/2 "2012-05-30T23:33:07Z")

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On Wed, 30 May 2012 20:26:01 GMT  
murphy19804 [murphy19804@no-mx.forums.novell.com](mailto:murphy19804@no-mx.forums.novell.com) wrote:  
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> I’m new here, so I don’t quite know where I should post this. If this  
> is not the proper forum, please excuse my ignorance.  
> I’m running openSuSE 11.1, and, no matter what I try, the times my  
> system shows me for UTC and localtime are reversed. My TZ is  
> America/New\_York, but when I enter hwclock --utc, I get a time four  
> hours before my local time, instead of four hours ahead. I can set UTC  
> or set local time and the result is the same. I tried editing  
> /etc/sysconfig/clock so that HWCLOCK is -u. Makes no difference. I  
> tried HWCLOCK =“–localtime”, same thing. If there is anyone out there  
> who can tell me how to correct this, I’d appreciate it. I’m studying  
> for my CompTIA Linux+ cert and don’t want to skip section of my  
> textbook without being able to correct the problem.  
> Thanks, Mike
> 
> [/color]  
> Hi  
> [http://forums.opensuse.org](http://forums.opensuse.org) is the place to be 😉 However 11.1 is way  
> out of support so answers maybe lacking…

–  
Cheers Malcolm Â°Â¿Â° (Linux Counter #276890)  
openSUSE 12.1 (x86\_64) Kernel 3.1.10-1.9-desktop  
up 2 days 21:16, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.05  
CPU Intel i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | Intel Arrandale GPU

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#### Post date: [May 31, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/utc-and-localtime/22691/3 "2012-05-31T14:56:02Z")

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How you explained it makes no sense to me? “I get a time four hours  
before my local time, instead of four hours ahead” \<===I think this says  
the same thing…am I mistaken?

–El

murphy19804;2198820 Wrote:[color=blue]

> I’m new here, so I don’t quite know where I should post this. If this is  
> not the proper forum, please excuse my ignorance.  
> I’m running openSuSE 11.1, and, no matter what I try, the times my  
> system shows me for UTC and localtime are reversed. My TZ is  
> America/New\_York, but when I enter hwclock --utc, I get a time four  
> hours before my local time, instead of four hours ahead. I can set UTC  
> or set local time and the result is the same. I tried editing  
> /etc/sysconfig/clock so that HWCLOCK is -u. Makes no difference. I  
> tried HWCLOCK =“–localtime”, same thing. If there is anyone out there  
> who can tell me how to correct this, I’d appreciate it. I’m studying for  
> my CompTIA Linux+ cert and don’t want to skip section of my textbook  
> without being able to correct the problem.  
> Thanks, Mike[/color]

## – El LaGrew elbert.lagrew#[katun.com](http://katun.com) elagrew on twitter

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#### Post date: [May 31, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/utc-and-localtime/22691/4 "2012-05-31T14:56:02Z")

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SuSE 11.1 is out of support? You’re joking right?

–El

[snip][color=blue]

> [/color][/color]  
> Hi  
> ‘openSUSE Forums’ ([http://forums.opensuse.org](http://forums.opensuse.org)) is the place to be 😉  
> However 11.1 is way  
> out of support so answers maybe lacking…

–  
Cheers Malcolm Â°Â¿Â° (Linux Counter #276890)  
openSUSE 12.1 (x86\_64) Kernel 3.1.10-1.9-desktop  
up 2 days 21:16, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.05  
CPU Intel i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | Intel Arrandale GPU

## – El LaGrew elbert.lagrew#[katun.com](http://katun.com) elagrew on twitter

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#### Post date: [May 31, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/utc-and-localtime/22691/5 "2012-05-31T16:09:51Z")

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On Thu, 31 May 2012 11:56:02 GMT  
elagrew [elagrew@no-mx.forums.novell.com](mailto:elagrew@no-mx.forums.novell.com) wrote:  
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> SuSE 11.1 is out of support? You’re joking right?
> 
> –El
> 
> [snip][color=green]
> 
> > [/color][/color]  
> > Hi  
> > ‘openSUSE Forums’ ([http://forums.opensuse.org](http://forums.opensuse.org)) is the place to be 😉  
> > However 11.1 is way  
> > out of support so answers maybe lacking…  
> > [/color]

Hi  
In you first post… openSUSE 11.1 and it sure is…

SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP1 isn’t, if this is what you have then you  
need to post in the appropriate SLE(S/D) forum.

cat /etc/SuSE-release will show what you have.

This forum isn’t for support…

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openSUSE 12.1 (x86\_64) Kernel 3.1.10-1.9-desktop  
up 9:23, 4 users, load average: 0.06, 0.04, 0.05  
CPU Intel i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | Intel Arrandale GPU

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Guys, as Malcolum says, it’s really best to take this over to the  
openSUSE technical forums where openSUSE tech gurus hang out. You’re  
much more likely to find answers there.

[http://forums.opensuse.org](http://forums.opensuse.org)

–  
Kim - 5/31/2012 9:12:28 AM

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elagrew;2198915 Wrote:[color=blue]

> How you explained it makes no sense to me? “I get a time four hours  
> before my local time, instead of four hours ahead” \<===I think this says  
> the same thing…am I mistaken?
> 
> –El[/color]  
> Sorry, my bad. I meant four hours earlier than my local time instead of  
> four hours later, i. e., my time should be four hours earlier than GMT  
> but it shows up as four hours later.  
> Mike

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kgroneman;2198960 Wrote:[color=blue]

> Guys, as Malcolum says, it’s really best to take this over to the  
> openSUSE technical forums where openSUSE tech gurus hang out. You’re  
> much more likely to find answers there.
> 
> ‘openSUSE Forums’ ([http://forums.opensuse.org](http://forums.opensuse.org))
> 
> –  
> Kim - 5/31/2012 9:12:28 AM[/color]  
> Thank you. I will do that.  
> Mike

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