# VM Creation Time **URL:** \ **Category:** SUSE Virtualization\ **Created:** [December 28, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/vm-creation-time/19129 "2020-12-28T15:31:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wiz3rd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/94ad74/32.png) [@Wiz3rd](https://forums.suse.com/u/Wiz3rd)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/vm-creation-time/19129/1 "2020-12-28T15:31:13Z")
Hey All, New to Harvester and I’m working on a “Frankenstein” HCI project to test Harvester out. What is normal start up time for a VM? Has anyone had the experience of VMs taking more than an hour to start? I’m working on spinning up a Centos 8 VM and it’s clocked at 15 hours still in the “starting” phase. I’m assuming this is a hardware issue as the machines I’m using are old desktops. Current Setup (hence frankenstein): 3 nodes Dell Optiplex 790 - i3 4Gb ram Dell Optiplex 330 - Pentium Dual Core 2Gb ram HP Pavillion Slimline s5220y - Pentium E5300 2Gb ram Totally understand if the solution is “get actual servers” but any additional ideas on how to get past the “starting” phase would be awsome. ---
**Author:** ![vincent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/vincent/32/7156_2.png) [@vincent](https://forums.suse.com/u/vincent)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/vm-creation-time/19129/2 "2020-12-29T20:30:04Z")
It’s certainly not measured in hours. Yes, the shape of the case doesn’t matter as far as “actual servers”, but “machines with modern processors” is a problem. Guessing a bit since only you only list one actual CPU model, but these look like 10-13 year old CPUs and I think at least 2 of 3 are lacking support for even basic the virtualization (VT-x) needed to run VMs. ---
**Author:** ![mdsh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forums.suse.com/mdsh/32/7040_2.png) [@mdsh](https://forums.suse.com/u/mdsh)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/vm-creation-time/19129/3 "2021-01-01T17:16:40Z")
When testing Harvester on a small old machine without enough disk space I found that spinning up VMs took an infinite amount of time (the VM never started). So for a home lab I bought a NUC sized PC with a 8 core AMD CPU, threw in 64GB RAM and a 2TB SSD. Harvester is ticking along nicely and VMs start in seconds. I might buy another just to see how well a cluster works.