# weird email **URL:** \ **Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\ **Created:** [May 20, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/weird-email/28189 "2016-05-20T20:37:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![System1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/weird-email/28189/1 "2016-05-20T20:37:45Z")
Got an email forwarded to me from my boss, wanting me to check the validity. Well, it’s a letter from the ‘general manager’, asking us to add exceptions to a spam filtering box, allowing their IP addresses to send email to us as it’s being blocked due to being on the spamhaus rbl. There’s a section in there about “how their site is scanned daily” for malware, etc, and how the emails they send are _not_ spam. A line in there says “There is no legal basis on which to block emails from our IP addresses.” The domain is wepetitionandlobbyDOTcom, and we do have a pile of emails from their IP addresses that hit our spam filter and get dropped due to rbl rules. There are also some that get blocked by surbl rules, which get checked by [surbl.org](http://surbl.org). If they’re so concerned about being on spamhaus’s rbl, why don’t they do something about getting removed instead of b\*\*\*hing to possible recipients asking to be whitelisted. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![ab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@ab1](https://forums.suse.com/u/ab1)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/weird-email/28189/2 "2016-05-20T20:56:53Z")
On 05/20/2016 11:37 AM, Stevo wrote:[color=blue] > Got an email forwarded to me from my boss, wanting me to check the > validity. > > Well, it’s a letter from the ‘general manager’, asking us to add > exceptions to a spam filtering box, allowing their IP addresses to send > email to us as it’s being blocked due to being on the spamhaus rbl. > > There’s a section in there about “how their site is scanned daily” for > malware, etc, and how the emails they send are _not_ spam.[/color] This is such a load. If you are doing any proper scanning of data you own, you do not do it daily, you do it constantly. Even then, anti-malware scanners are snake oil at best, so their use of this argument is crap. [color=blue] > A line in there says “There is no legal basis on which to block emails > from our IP addresses.”[/color] There is no such thing as an illegal reason to block e-mail; e-mail is not something that must be accepted under the laws of probably any land; it’s not protected speech on the recipient side, though may be on the sender’s side which does not matter to you. It’s not being sent by a protected class. They should get over themselves. [color=blue] > The domain is wepetitionandlobbyDOTcom, and we do have a pile of emails > from their IP addresses that hit our spam filter and get dropped due to > rbl rules.[/color] With a domain name like that, what is the chance they are not crap? If I were you I’d change your spam filter to block their non-spam messages (like this) as well as their regularly-scheduled spam program. – Good luck. If you find this post helpful and are logged into the web interface, show your appreciation and click on the star below… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/weird-email/28189/3 "2016-05-20T21:24:35Z")
ab sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > With a domain name like that, what is the chance they are not crap? > > If I were you I’d change your spam filter to block their non-spam > messages (like this) as well as their regularly-scheduled spam > program.[/color] So my response to ab’s comment is… I’m waiting to hear back how the person at our location got said message, it was a pdf attached that I received. The gal that sent it to my boss (in our legal dept) is not overly concerned with it, just wanted someone in I.T. to take a look at it. I’m not very concerned with it either, just wanted to bounce the info off folks in here and get their opinions. The actual message is addressed to one of tptb here, wondering if they sent it to his personal address or sent a letter or something. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![ab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@ab1](https://forums.suse.com/u/ab1)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/weird-email/28189/4 "2016-05-20T21:40:16Z")
Red: Granny, what big eyes you have! Wolf/Granny: No, I don’t. Red: Oh, okay. In that case, I’ll come over and sit closer to you. Wolf: Nom nom nom. – Good luck. If you find this post helpful and are logged into the web interface, show your appreciation and click on the star below… ---
**Author:** ![AndersG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndersG](https://forums.suse.com/u/AndersG)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/weird-email/28189/5 "2016-05-20T22:07:42Z")
Stevo,[color=blue] > A line in there says “There is no legal basis on which to block emails > from our IP addresses.”[/color] Are you a government entity? – Anders Gustafsson (NKP) The Aaland Islands (N60 E20) Have an idea for a product enhancement? Please visit: [https://www.novell.com/products/enhancement-request.html](https://www.novell.com/products/enhancement-request.html) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/weird-email/28189/6 "2016-05-20T22:41:45Z")
ab sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > Red: Granny, what big eyes you have! > Wolf/Granny: No, I don’t. > Red: Oh, okay. In that case, I’ll come over and sit closer to you. > Wolf: Nom nom nom.[/color] So my response to ab’s comment is… Ha! Apparently the said attachment was sent via snail mail, they then scanned & emailed it to my boss. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/weird-email/28189/7 "2016-05-20T22:42:05Z")
Anders Gustafsson sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > Stevo,[color=green] > > > A line in there says “There is no legal basis on which to block > > emails from our IP addresses.”[/color] > > Are you a government entity?[/color] So my response to Anders’s comment is… County (local) government. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![kgroneman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f1d935/32.png) [@kgroneman](https://forums.suse.com/u/kgroneman)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/weird-email/28189/8 "2016-05-20T23:13:43Z")
Hey Stevo: [color=blue] > Well, it’s a letter from the ‘general manager’[/color] I would have tossed the letter on that alone. One black mark. [color=blue] > A line in there says “There is no legal basis on which to block emails > from our IP addresses.”[/color] As the others said here, I’m not aware of any laws that say you MUST accept an email and if they say that, 2nd black mark. [color=blue] > The domain is wepetitionandlobbyDOTcom, and we do have a pile of > emails from their IP addresses[/color] The domain is bogus. Check their IP address at [http://www.tcpiputils.com/](http://www.tcpiputils.com/) and look at the “Spam Tools” there. 3rd black mark. [color=blue] > If they’re so concerned about being on spamhaus’s rbl, why don’t they > do something about getting removed instead of b\*\*\*hing to possible > recipients asking to be whitelisted.[/color] I get forum feedback all the time from people asking something similar: “I’m not a spammer, I’ve never spammed, please unblock me…” and their IP address is on multiple block lists. They doing this is their 4th black mark in my mind. [color=blue] > Got an email forwarded to me from my boss, wanting me to check the > validity.[/color] Good luck with that. Use the site I list above and tell your boss on how many block lists they are on. – Kim - 5/20/2016 2:07:44 PM ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/weird-email/28189/9 "2016-05-20T23:25:32Z")
kgroneman sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > Good luck with that. Use the site I list above and tell your boss on > how many block lists they are on.[/color] So my response to kgroneman’s comment is… I checked their domain via mxtoolbox and it did not corrispond to the ip addresses they sent in the letter, even though the emails attempting to get in come from those addresses. I’m not gonna worry about it any more, nor is my boss. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/weird-email/28189/10 "2016-05-20T23:34:26Z")
Oh, btw, the ip addresses of their supposed mail servers are from London. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![kgroneman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f1d935/32.png) [@kgroneman](https://forums.suse.com/u/kgroneman)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/weird-email/28189/11 "2016-05-21T00:23:40Z")
Hey Stevo: [color=blue] > I’m not gonna worry about it any more, nor is my boss.[/color] good choice. – Kim - 5/20/2016 3:23:33 PM ---
**Author:** ![AndersG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndersG](https://forums.suse.com/u/AndersG)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/weird-email/28189/12 "2016-05-22T18:15:55Z")
Stevo,[color=blue] > County (local) government.[/color] OK. Then you might have stricter rules on what to block. – Anders Gustafsson (NKP) The Aaland Islands (N60 E20) Have an idea for a product enhancement? Please visit: [https://www.novell.com/products/enhancement-request.html](https://www.novell.com/products/enhancement-request.html)