# Windows 8 **URL:** \ **Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\ **Created:** [August 19, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/windows-8/24296 "2013-08-19T17:51:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![System1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/windows-8/24296/1 "2013-08-19T17:51:39Z")
Do you use an anti virus program on Windows 8 clients? ---
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On 8/19/2013 10:51 AM, Arthur wrote:[color=blue] > Do you use an anti virus program on Windows 8 clients? > [/color] Yes… It is called Windows 7… I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER allow Windows 8 on my network. ---
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Arthur, [color=blue] > Do you use an anti virus program on Windows 8 clients? > [/color] My new home PC came with Windows 8 and McAfee AV. I nuked “McCrappy” and installed Microsoft Security Essentials or whatever they’re calling it now. It seems to work okay. ---
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On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:55:32 +0000, Douglas Black wrote: [color=blue] > Arthur, > [color=green] > > > Do you use an anti virus program on Windows 8 clients? > > > > [/color] > > My new home PC came with Windows 8 and McAfee AV. I nuked “McCrappy” > > and installed Microsoft Security Essentials or whatever they’re calling > > it now. It seems to work okay.[/color] That’s what I use in my Win8 VM as well. Seems to do the job well enough for my purposes. I have very little Windows on my home network, and that VM is either behind a single or double NAT connection to the outside world, so inbound attacks won’t work against it very effectively. Jim – Jim Henderson, CNA6, CDE, CNI, LPIC-1, CLA10, CLP10 Novell/SUSE/NetIQ Knowledge Partner ---
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[color=blue] > Yes… It is called Windows 7… I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER > allow Windows 8 on my network.[/color] Too bad. It’s outstanding. ---
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> [@](#): > > On Tue 20 Aug 2013 10:43:11 PM CDT, GofBorg wrote: > > [color=blue] > > > Yes… It is called Windows 7… I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER > > EVER allow Windows 8 on my network.[/color] > > Too bad. It’s outstanding. Once I got past the freaky start screen to the desktop sure it’s pretty normal sans the start button and having to go to different corners of the screen. Every now and again this system boots to it, then have to run a shutdown (to not do the fast boot thing) so I can get to the UEFI boot screen and kick grub2 into life… I did have some fun getting it to work on the second hard drive by running the recovery partition from even another drive connected via USB, but it came around and behaved it’s self even after shrinking down to 80GB… I will wait until the 8.1 upgrade arrives and see how that goes. The only thing I do object to is all the data it wants to shift out onto the net, wasted bandwidth I found some places to disable, but why enable by default, let the end user choose… – Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 12.3 (x86\_64) Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-desktop up 3:19, 3 users, load average: 0.31, 0.25, 0.17 CPU AMD E2-1800@1.70GHz | GPU Radeon HD 7340 ---
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:43:11 +0000, GofBorg wrote: [color=blue][color=green] > > Yes… It is called Windows 7… I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER > > EVER allow Windows 8 on my network.[/color] > > Too bad. It’s outstanding.[/color] Out standing where? ---
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On 8/20/2013 8:10 PM, Bob Crandell wrote:[color=blue] > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:43:11 +0000, GofBorg wrote: > [color=green][color=darkred] > > > > Yes… It is called Windows 7… I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER > > > EVER allow Windows 8 on my network.[/color] > > > > Too bad. It’s outstanding.[/color] > > Out standing where? > [/color] > OMG… Please do not reference the “field”. (sigh). ---
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Bob Crandell wrote: [color=blue] > Out standing where?[/color] In a broken phone booth with money in its hand. – Does this washcloth smell like chloroform? ---
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GofBorg wrote: [color=blue][color=green] > > Yes… It is called Windows 7… I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER > > EVER allow Windows 8 on my network.[/color] > > Too bad. It’s outstanding.[/color] Was yesterday opposite day? – Does this washcloth smell like chloroform? ---
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On 21/08/2013 12:58, Joseph Marton wrote:[color=blue] > GofBorg wrote: > [color=green][color=darkred] > > > > Yes… It is called Windows 7… I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER > > > EVER allow Windows 8 on my network.[/color] > > > > Too bad. It’s outstanding.[/color] > > Was yesterday opposite day?[/color] No, you just have to read carefully. Note he didn’t say it was outstandingly _good_… It certainly stands out, even compared to Vista or ME. ---
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Just works for us. In fact, works better than any MS OS prior in any case we’ve tried it in. Users adapted to it without any issues which I was amazed at. On a home basis, I have old software that hasn’t worked in years suddenly it works. Love it. YMMV of course. Time to take off the tin foil hats. ---
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GofBorg, [color=blue] > Just works for us. In fact, works better than any MS OS prior > in any case we’ve tried it in. Users adapted to it without any > issues which I was amazed at. On a home basis, I have old software > that hasn’t worked in years suddenly it works. Love it. YMMV of course. > Time to take off the tin foil hats. > [/color] I’m not particularly fond of Windows 8, but I don’t think it’s any worse than Windows 7 … or XP … or 2000. It’s just different for the sake of being different, and we ought to be used to _that_ by now. ---
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Douglas Black sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > I’m not particularly fond of Windows 8, but I don’t think it’s any > worse than Windows 7 … or XP … or 2000. It’s just different for > the sake of being different, and we ought to be used to that by now.[/color] So my response to Douglas’s comment is… I hate the fact the ‘start’ (windows, whatever) button went away. I understand they think _EVERYONE_ only does stuff on tablets, etc, but there should be the _option_ to have a start button… – Stevo ---
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 01:12:55 +0000, Bob wrote: [color=blue] > On 8/20/2013 8:10 PM, Bob Crandell wrote:[color=green] > > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:43:11 +0000, GofBorg wrote: > > [color=darkred] > > > > > > Yes… It is called Windows 7… I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER > > > > EVER allow Windows 8 on my network. > > > > > > Too bad. It’s outstanding.[/color] > > > > Out standing where? > > [/color] > > OMG… Please do not reference the “field”. (sigh).[/color] You, being the first to mention it, have that distinction. ---
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Stevo, I’m going to try again, once 8.1 is out, but not before… – Shaun Pond ---
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On 8/22/2013 10:28 AM, Bob Crandell wrote:[color=blue] > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 01:12:55 +0000, Bob wrote: > [color=green] > > > On 8/20/2013 8:10 PM, Bob Crandell wrote:[color=darkred] > > > > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:43:11 +0000, GofBorg wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes… It is called Windows 7… I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER > > > > > EVER allow Windows 8 on my network. > > > > > > > > Too bad. It’s outstanding. > > > > > > Out standing where? > > > [/color] > > > OMG… Please do not reference the “field”. (sigh).[/color] > > You, being the first to mention it, have that distinction. > [/color] VBG ---
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Shaun Pond sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > Stevo, > > I’m going to try again, once 8.1 is out, but not before…[/color] So my response to Shaun’s comment is… Let me know how it goes, would ya? – Stevo ---
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Stevo,[color=blue] > I hate the fact the ‘start’ (windows, whatever) button went away. I > understand they think _EVERYONE_ only does stuff on tablets, etc, but > there should be the _option_ to have a start button… > [/color] I don’t like the absence of the Start button either\*, but I don’t quite understand why that would cause someone to say “I won’t allow Windows 8 on my network.” \*there are rumors – rumours for some of us 🙂 – that it will return in Windows 8.1 ---
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> I’m not particularly fond of Windows 8, but I don’t think it’s any worse[color=blue] > than Windows 7 … or XP … or 2000. It’s just different for the sake > of being different, and we ought to be used to _that_ by now.[/color] Yep. Initially I missed the start button, but honestly after awhile I realized I really don’t need it. When it does come back in 8.1 I have a feeling it’s not going to be what everyone thinks it’s going to be and they’ll still be miffed. There are some nifty right click options on it though, be sure to check those out. You’ll also be able to boot straight to desktop if that’s your thing. Right click on the taskbar go to properties. There’s a new Tab in there. [Next page](https://forums.suse.com/t/windows-8/24296.md?page=2)