# Windows 8

**URL:** <https://forums.suse.com/t/windows-8/24296>\
**Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\
**Created:** [August 19, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/windows-8/24296 "2013-08-19T17:51:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/windows-8/24296/21 "2013-08-28T21:03:53Z")

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On 08/28/2013 11:49 AM, GofBorg wrote:[color=blue][color=green]

> > I’m not particularly fond of Windows 8, but I don’t think it’s any worse  
> > than Windows 7 … or XP … or 2000. It’s just different for the sake  
> > of being different, and we ought to be used to _that_ by now.[/color]
> 
> Yep. Initially I missed the start button, but honestly after awhile I  
> realized I really don’t need it. When it does come back in 8.1 I have a  
> feeling it’s not going to be what everyone thinks it’s going to be and  
> they’ll still be miffed. There are some nifty right click options  
> on it though, be sure to check those out. You’ll also be able to boot  
> straight to desktop if that’s your thing. Right click on the taskbar  
> go to properties. There’s a new Tab in there.[/color]

It’ll only be un-missed by those who somehow have windows eight and have  
managed to get used to it. According to the people I’ve polled, that  
means two people that I know (you and Kim) might possibly not-miss the  
button. Some people missed Vista after seven came out too… there are  
quirks in every crowd. 😉

Good luck.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/windows-8/24296/22 "2013-08-28T22:48:57Z")

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> there are quirks in every crowd. ;-)[/color]

Call me quirky. Vista was rubbish.  
I think I just decided to not let it annoy  
me so I got past it.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/windows-8/24296/23 "2013-08-28T23:32:00Z")

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On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:03:53 +0000, ab wrote:  
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> It’ll only be un-missed by those who somehow have windows eight and have  
> managed to get used to it. According to the people I’ve polled, that  
> means two people that I know (you and Kim) might possibly not-miss the  
> button. Some people missed Vista after seven came out too… there are  
> quirks in every crowd. ;-)[/color]

Well, here’s a third. As a Linux user, I’ve not really had a “start”  
button on my regular desktop since the late 90’s. I have Win8 Enterprise  
in a VM, and I don’t miss having a start button. Might be a case where  
Linux users again have the upper hand because of the difference in the UI  
they’re used to.

Jim

–  
Jim Henderson, CNA6, CDE, CNI, LPIC-1, CLA10, CLP10  
Novell/SUSE/NetIQ Knowledge Partner

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/windows-8/24296/24 "2013-08-29T00:34:15Z")

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Hey Jim Henderson,  
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> two people that I know (you and Kim) might possibly not-miss the  
> button.[/color]

I miss it…but not THAT much. If they put a SHUT DOWN button in it’s  
place I’d miss it even less. (I’ve created my own)

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Kim - 8/28/2013 3:32:53 PM

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/windows-8/24296/25 "2013-08-29T00:46:08Z")

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On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:34:15 +0000, kgroneman wrote:  
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> Hey Jim Henderson,  
> [color=green]
> 
> > two people that I know (you and Kim) might possibly not-miss the  
> > button.[/color]
> 
> I miss it…but not THAT much. If they put a SHUT DOWN button in it’s  
> place I’d miss it even less. (I’ve created my own)[/color]

I just suspend the VM, no shutdown button needed. 🙂

Jim

–  
Jim Henderson, CNA6, CDE, CNI, LPIC-1, CLA10, CLP10  
Novell/SUSE/NetIQ Knowledge Partner

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/windows-8/24296/26 "2013-08-29T18:49:10Z")

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funny i’ve just been playing aroudn with win8 and a test SOE for the  
last few days (it’s really quiet at the moment lol)

I personally think the interface of 8.0 is a dogs breakfast if you’re  
used to just using the mouse to navigate the start menu, if you use the  
windows key shortcuts it’s tolerable

I found this article on the MS website that lists several of the  
shortcuts that give you easy access to parts of what used to be the  
start menu but in metro UI:  
‘New keyboard shortcuts for Windows 8 and Windows RT - Microsoft  
Windows’  
([http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-8/new-keyboard-shortcuts](http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-8/new-keyboard-shortcuts))

i’ve looked at 8.1 and it seems they have made the interface easier to  
navigate, with the start screen getting an extra section where all your  
apps are, kind of like the old start menu system, I think going from 7  
to 8.1 will be a much easier transition for most users, still not  
perfect but reasonable and more intuitive

just a shame that the preview release of 8.1 can’t create a catalog with  
ENGL or the wsim tool (known issue with the preview release), however I  
can say in my own testing with a 64 bit build that ZCM seems to behave  
itself which is nice

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/windows-8/24296/27 "2013-08-30T00:57:44Z")

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> I miss it…but not THAT much. If they put a SHUT DOWN button in it’s[color=blue]  
> place I’d miss it even less. (I’ve created my own)[/color]

LOL. I did that on a couple of machines because the user couldn’t figure out  
how to shut it down…which, I can see their point. A lot of people  
struggle to find the ‘charms’ bar.

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