# XP weirdness **URL:** \ **Category:** Chatting over the Back Fence\ **Created:** [July 21, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867 "2012-07-21T01:42:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![System1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@System1](https://forums.suse.com/u/System1)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/1 "2012-07-21T01:42:12Z")
Have a machine running XP sp3, trying to get it to go clear to the destkop on bootup. When I put control userpasswords2 in RUN or a DOS box, I get: ‘control’ is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file WTF?!??! Tried gpedit.msc, mmc, those don’t work either. What gives? What would cause this? – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/2 "2012-07-21T01:56:04Z")
Nevermind…path was borked… – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/3 "2012-07-21T16:57:27Z")
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 22:56:04 GMT, “Stevo” [steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net](mailto:steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net) wrote: [color=blue] > Nevermind…path was borked…[/color] Glad you figured out the issue. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/4 "2012-07-21T19:43:03Z")
KeN Etter sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > Glad you figured out the issue. :-)[/color] So my response to KeN’s comment is… I’m glad it was something simple. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/5 "2012-07-21T22:26:22Z")
Still working today…or just browsing the forum? I just finished up a GW8 to GW2012 upgrade…and also migrated it from Netware to OES11. Now I need to finish setting up a PC for a new employee that starts Monday…which I just found out about yesterday. I am really going to enjoy relaxing tomorrow. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2012, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/6 "2012-07-22T04:27:42Z")
KeN Etter sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > Still working today…or just browsing the forum? > > I just finished up a GW8 to GW2012 upgrade…and also migrated it from > Netware to OES11. Now I need to finish setting up a PC for a new > employee that starts Monday…which I just found out about yesterday. > I am really going to enjoy relaxing tomorrow. :-)[/color] So my response to KeN’s comment is… Just checkin the forums. I know the feeling finding out about new users, etc. Many times I get a call: User: “So and so cannot login to the network” Me: “What’s their userid? Who is it?” User: “It’s , they started last week” Me: “Ummmm, I don’t recall any notification about them, they don’t have a userid” User: “Oh, we need to let you know about stuff like that?” Me: – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/7 "2012-07-23T10:54:42Z")
“Stevo” [steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net](mailto:steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net) wrote in news:iGIOr.835$If2.490 @kovat.provo.novell.com: [color=blue] > Just checkin the forums. I know the feeling finding out about new > users, etc. Many times I get a call: > > User: “So and so cannot login to the network” > Me: “What’s their userid? Who is it?” > > User: “It’s , they started last week” > Me: “Ummmm, I don’t recall any notification about them, they don’t > have a userid” > > User: “Oh, we need to let you know about stuff like that?” > Me: > [/color] Sometimes the people who make the decisions have no grasp of the complexity or how far down and up their change travels. I know of instances where sales sold a solution that needed IT involved as it had cost recovery and printing changes, to be tied into their network infrastructure based on user login ID’s, but their IT was only brought in after it was signed. Having to implement a solution with grumpy IT is never fun… – Ciao, Dave ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/8 "2012-07-23T16:20:31Z")
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 01:27:42 GMT, “Stevo” [steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net](mailto:steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net) wrote: [color=blue] > KeN Etter sounds like they ‘said’: > [color=green] > > > Still working today…or just browsing the forum? > > > > I just finished up a GW8 to GW2012 upgrade…and also migrated it from > > Netware to OES11. Now I need to finish setting up a PC for a new > > employee that starts Monday…which I just found out about yesterday. > > I am really going to enjoy relaxing tomorrow. :-)[/color] > > So my response to KeN’s comment is… > > Just checkin the forums. I know the feeling finding out about new > users, etc. Many times I get a call: > > User: “So and so cannot login to the network” > Me: “What’s their userid? Who is it?” > > User: “It’s , they started last week” > Me: “Ummmm, I don’t recall any notification about them, they don’t > have a userid” > > User: “Oh, we need to let you know about stuff like that?” > Me: [/color] LOL! My favorite was the time I was asked when I would have a computer ready for the new person. I was asked the morning the new person started. And I had no available equipment…had to order something. But fortunately most of the time I do get advance notice. Ken ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/9 "2012-07-23T17:31:11Z")
Dave Taylor sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > Having to implement a solution with grumpy IT is never fun…[/color] So my response to Dave’s comment is… Don’t I know it! I’m usually the grumpy one. We’ve had many many times where a dept goes out & buys some software package w/o discussing anything w/ us. Then we get a phone call: User: “Such and such company is here to install this software today” Me: “What software” User: “Oh, we bought some software, they said we need a server, additional client computers, etc, etc” Me: “Well this is the first I’ve heard of it” AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGH!!! – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/10 "2012-07-23T17:32:16Z")
KeN Etter sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > LOL! My favorite was the time I was asked when I would have a > computer ready for the new person. I was asked the morning the new > person started. And I had no available equipment…had to order > something. But fortunately most of the time I do get advance notice.[/color] So my response to KeN’s comment is… Fortunately for us we have the commissioners’ backing that any new computer, etc to be put on the network needs to be requested through them, so usually we don’t get that dropped on us. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/11 "2012-07-23T18:28:22Z")
On 23/07/2012 15:31, Stevo wrote:[color=blue] > User: “Oh, we bought some software, they said we need a server, > additional client computers, etc, etc” > Me: “Well this is the first I’ve heard of it”[/color] Me: Ok, well we will need to order in that new hardware AND a support package from the vendor in case of issues. What’s your department’s budget code? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/12 "2012-07-23T18:54:21Z")
Dave Howe sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > On 23/07/2012 15:31, Stevo wrote:[color=green] > > > User: “Oh, we bought some software, they said we need a server, > > additional client computers, etc, etc” > > Me: “Well this is the first I’ve heard of it”[/color] > > Me: Ok, well we will need to order in that new hardware AND a support > package from the vendor in case of issues. What’s your department’s > budget code? > > :)[/color] So my response to Dave’s comment is… Yeah, I agree, problem is it usually becomes an emergency as the software vendor/consultant is on site to install, & we get made to look the fools as we don’t have anything ready for them. Of course we’re running VMware, so that’s not too bad a turnaround time to spin up a server. It’s just that we keep getting forced to run more and more ‘servers’, and many times we’re not involved in any of the decision as to what is being installed & what it will need to run properly. – Stevo ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/13 "2012-07-23T19:06:24Z")
On 23/07/2012 16:54, Stevo wrote: [color=blue] > So my response to Dave’s comment is… > > Yeah, I agree, problem is it usually becomes an emergency as the > software vendor/consultant is on site to install, & we get made to look > the fools as we don’t have anything ready for them. > > Of course we’re running VMware, so that’s not too bad a turnaround time > to spin up a server. It’s just that we keep getting forced to run more > and more ‘servers’, and many times we’re not involved in any of the > decision as to what is being installed & what it will need to run > properly.[/color] Get the billing code anyhow. One approach is to maintain some slack “capacity” in vmware for such needs, but mark it as emergency resource, to be swapped out for either an expansion of the vmware farm (with a modern setup, that’s largely just buying an extra blade and the licences) or physical kit, if the vendor recommends (and its amazing what low-performance badly written crap is handwaved as “needs dedicated hardware”). By charging the moving department for the extra vmware resource you can usually gain some extra slack (for immediate provisioning in the future, if they need it 🙂 and get your emergency space back as well 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/14 "2012-07-24T16:03:37Z")
Stevo,[color=blue] > Yeah, I agree, problem is it usually becomes an emergency as the > software vendor/consultant is on site to install,& we get made to look > the fools as we don’t have anything ready for them. > > Of course we’re running VMware, so that’s not too bad a turnaround time > to spin up a server. It’s just that we keep getting forced to run more > and more ‘servers’, and many times we’re not involved in any of the > decision as to what is being installed& what it will need to run > properly. > [/color] When I started here, we had maybe 150 servers. We now have 1500+. Funny what a migration from NetWare to Windows can do … ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/15 "2012-07-24T16:18:32Z")
On 24/07/2012 14:03, Douglas Black wrote:[color=blue] > When I started here, we had maybe 150 servers. We now have 1500+. Funny > what a migration from NetWare to Windows can do …[/color] To be fair, the 1500+ are _almost as good_ as the 150 were 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/suse/original/2X/5/5012ba89e3ffb5220dac47d5ea0ba032e2fe1cb6.png) [@system](https://forums.suse.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.suse.com/t/xp-weirdness/22867/16 "2012-07-24T16:26:34Z")
Douglas Black sounds like they ‘said’: [color=blue] > When I started here, we had maybe 150 servers. We now have 1500+. > Funny what a migration from NetWare to Windows can do …[/color] So my response to Douglas’s comment is… No kidding. Funny too how an OES server running software to ‘emulate’ windows stuff cannot have anything else on it either. – Stevo