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dvhenry
15-Dec-2012, 06:26
I have so far had no success with LXDE, I've done ok with KDE and gnome.
I have tried instructions 'here' (http://tinyurl.com/d9euvhh), and just
about every thing else I can think of, I want a light DE or WM that
people find easy to use, it does not need to be LXDE.
I'm attempting to use SUSE Studio to create yet another recovery disk
for my own use and that of friends, (I know, there are already plenty to
choose from, but I would just like to do it).
If anyone has advice I'm happy to give it a go.


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caf4926
15-Dec-2012, 07:06
Not sure I quite understand what you want us to say....

As you seem to have already tried LXDE and clearly found something not
to your liking? What exactly was it that meant you 'had no success'?

It doesn't work for me either, well, it works but the main issue I have
is I would only want to use it on a machine with limitations... such as
my eeepc, which would be fine, except that LXDE suspend and resume
creates a blank space to the panel each time you suspend and resume. As
I leave my machine in this state most of the time, probably go back and
forth to it 20+ times a day, the result is very messy... (All distros
LXDE behave the same) So I have Mint Mate on my eeepc and it's even
better IMO. Just telling it how it is.
But there are plans for a openSUSE Mate install .iso I think. (Though I
don't like the 2 Panel layout they went with or the Menu)

You could look at Razor-qt
IMO, this should become a install Pattern for the DVD


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dvhenry
15-Dec-2012, 07:16
> What exactly was it that meant you 'had no success'?
Your right, I was not clear, I meant I had no success installing LXDE
as the DE in the SUSE Studio 'distro' I am attempting to create.
For a recovery disk I believe LXDE would work well, and I have seen it
do so.
> You could look at Razor-qt
Happy to give it a go, I hadn't heard of it until recently.


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caf4926
15-Dec-2012, 07:26
So it's a little clearer now.
Actually installing LXDE from the standard DVD is not a problem of
course.
You issue is with your own creation of a LXDE based media in SUSE
Studio? Which isn't something I work with much. Lets see if you get some
more educated responses :-)


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dvhenry
15-Dec-2012, 12:56
caf4926;2510956 Wrote:
> So it's a little clearer now.
> Actually installing LXDE from the standard DVD is not a problem of
> course.
> You issue is with your own creation of a LXDE based media in SUSE
> Studio? Which isn't something I work with much. Lets see if you get some
> more educated responses :-)
Yep, I'm having difficulties installing any lite DE or WM with SUSE
Studio that I have tried so far, I expect I am making the same mistakes
continuously.
Perhaps there are some docs that I have neglected to put the needed
effort into finding?

thanks for your replies on this to this point.


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dvhenry
15-Dec-2012, 14:36
It appears to be a permissions issue, I am unsure how to edit the files
in SUSE Studio.
An example of the error message follows (NOTE, this is copied with pen
to paper, so expect some errors).

Code:
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tux@linux-bash"> startx
hostname: Name or Server not known
xauth: file/home/tux.serverauth.8743 does not exist

Fatal server error:
Cannot open log file "/var/log/Xorg.1.log"
Please consult the X.org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org

xinit: giving up
xinit: unable to connect to X server Connection refused
xinit: server error
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
xinit failed. /usr/bin/Xorg is not setuid, maybe thats the reason?
If so either use a display manager (strongly recommended) or adjust /etc/ permitions.local
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malcolmlewis
15-Dec-2012, 14:43
On Sat 15 Dec 2012 11:56:02 AM CST, dvhenry wrote:


caf4926;2510956 Wrote:
> So it's a little clearer now.
> Actually installing LXDE from the standard DVD is not a problem of
> course.
> You issue is with your own creation of a LXDE based media in SUSE
> Studio? Which isn't something I work with much. Lets see if you get
> some more educated responses :-)
Yep, I'm having difficulties installing any lite DE or WM with SUSE
Studio that I have tried so far, I expect I am making the same mistakes
continuously.
Perhaps there are some docs that I have neglected to put the needed
effort into finding?

thanks for your replies on this to this point.




Hi
So what overlay files have you included, modified the displaymanager
and windowmanager files?

For an example here is my bloackbox overlay;
http://paste.opensuse.org/89773976

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dvhenry
15-Dec-2012, 15:16
> Hi
> So what overlay files have you included, modified the displaymanager
> and windowmanager files?
>
> For an example here is my bloackbox overlay;
> 'SUSE Paste' (http://paste.opensuse.org/89773976)

I have run many builds.
I have not concentrated on modifying the displaymanager and
windowmanager files, should I?


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malcolmlewis
15-Dec-2012, 15:33
On Sat 15 Dec 2012 02:16:02 PM CST, dvhenry wrote:


> Hi
> So what overlay files have you included, modified the displaymanager
> and windowmanager files?
>
> For an example here is my bloackbox overlay;
> 'SUSE Paste' (http://paste.opensuse.org/89773976)

I have run many builds.
I have not concentrated on modifying the displaymanager and
windowmanager files, should I?




Hi
Well AFAIK you would need to modify them to start your window manager
eg startlxde or what ever is required. The displaymanager I changed for
the username to autologin and login manager to use (lxdm).

BTW, startx doesn't work anymore, unless as indicated you change the
permissions. Again those changed files need to be added to the overlay
file list, correct permissions etc.

Do you need a GUI for a rescue type system, esp if the problem is gpu
related? I use a console based one (called twin) and gpm for the mouse.

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dvhenry
15-Dec-2012, 15:36
I'm happy to concentrate on one attempt, which would give a better
indication of what I'm doing wrong.
Any suggestions on how I should go about that attempt?


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malcolmlewis
15-Dec-2012, 15:54
On Sat 15 Dec 2012 02:36:02 PM CST, dvhenry wrote:


I'm happy to concentrate on one attempt, which would give a better
indication of what I'm doing wrong.
Any suggestions on how I should go about that attempt?




Hi
Configuring windowmanager and displaymanager with the correct settings
so it will autologin and start the WM in testdrive. Then can work on
getting startx from the command line.

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dvhenry
15-Dec-2012, 16:16
> Hi
> Well AFAIK you would need to modify them to start your window manager
> eg startlxde or what ever is required. The displaymanager I changed for
> the username to autologin and login manager to use (lxdm).

That gives me a better idea of what Ineed to do.

> BTW, startx doesn't work anymore, unless as indicated you change the
> permissions. Again those changed files need to be added to the overlay
> file list, correct permissions etc.

I was not aware of that, more useful info!

> Do you need a GUI for a rescue type system, esp if the problem is gpu
> related? I use a console based one (called twin) and gpm for the mouse.

No actual need for it, but I would like to be able to run gparted, for
example, there are alternatives,
but I would like to take advantage of the ease of use, particularly for
those friends of mine who
don't understand the CLI.

There is no need for another rescue disk, I just would like to make one
with SUSE Studio.


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dvhenry
15-Dec-2012, 16:16
> Hi
> Configuring windowmanager and displaymanager with the correct settings
> so it will autologin and start the WM in testdrive. Then can work on
> getting startx from the command line.

Thanks, that is now my plan.


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dvhenry
18-Dec-2012, 08:06
An update,
Well, I have still had no success with LXDE, (even when using a KDE or
GNOME template and adding LXDE, LXDE is not added to the DM list).
I t does not need to be LXDE however, so I've gone with IceWM, which
will still do what I want.
I have some other issues however and when I have sorted out the details
to post will start a new post (or 2 !).


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